Spoiler Alert below the fold, can’t be helped.
We have perhaps the best possible news. Pfizer’s vaccine is over 90% effective, and they are going to ask for emergency use authorization in a few weeks. Woo-hoo!
We also have very bad news. It was clear the numbers were going to get worse, and they are substantially worse than I expected. Things are about to get quite bad out there. Also the attempts to overturn the results of the election aren’t great.
There’s a thought I can’t shake, though.
You ever think a writer is getting a bit lazy when it comes time to wrap things up?
An inhuman threat that grows more deadly as it gets colder, that no ordinary sword can slay and that cares nothing for politics, grows exponentially in power by the day.
There remain two who would rule the land.
One, who is currently in the seat of power, claims they and their family are the best at business but their longtime revenue sources are bankrupt and they rely heavily on loans from banks to stay afloat, while their true accounting method is being vindictive as hell. Infighting has caused the most competent people in the administration to abandon it. Having seized control in the crucial moment amidst divided opposition and maintained it against claims of their illegitimacy and worse, they put up a surprisingly strong fight. When provided with evidence of the inhuman threat right in front of their face, menacing them directly, they briefly acknowledge it, but mostly ignore it and are happy to let others deal with it. It’s not their problem. They warn that their rival would destroy all if allowed to rule. They refuse to admit defeat and keep only the counsel of very close family, even after the verdict is clear.
The other used to be high up the line of succession before power changed hands, and has returned with allies of varied ethnic origins. They have assembled a broad coalition, many with pasts they are ashamed about, and some of whom have proven difficult to control and prone to rioting. Many are there purely because they would welcome almost any change. They have suffered great tragedy in their life, losing two children and a spouse. They arrive to restore the old norms, for honor and dignity, and to free the people. They pledge to fight systemic injustice. They claim they will rule for all the people, especially those who need help the most.
As the conflict between the two looks to be reaching its zenith, the inhuman threat threatens to overtake us all.
The second claimant, with almost no help from the other, puts their campaign on hold and attempts to rise to the challenge, assisting allies in developing new weapons while their rival consolidates their base. But their efforts to defeat the inhuman threat seem to have no plausible path to success and to be in vain. The enemy’s ranks swell and all seems to be lost.
Then, as our darkest hour approaches, a hero answers the call! An outside force has been working the whole time to hone advanced techniques that many people do not believe exist or would prove ineffective. Just in time, they deliver the blow we need to defeat the inhuman enemy before all is lost. Shortly thereafter, the second claimant dispatches the first.
We are saved, but winter is upon us and much has been lost. It will take much time to rebuild, on many levels. The urge to celebrate is understandable, but the coming months will be the deadliest. Even if most would prefer to pretend otherwise.
I need to stop this aimless musing. Time to focus. Let’s run the numbers, then deal with the vaccine news, then double back to the shorter term in light of both halves.
The Numbers
I am sorry about all this, I really wish it wasn’t necessary to point out who won the election before going over the Covid numbers, but it is. If you want to know how we will handle the pandemic, it is important to know who will be leading the fight.
By all means, skip this first section if you don’t need it.
Votes
You really, really should know this already, and I’m sure most of you do, but remarkably large numbers of people are in denial or lying about it, including the President. People are crazy, the world is mad. So I’m going to pause here up front and say it.
Congratulations to President-Elect Joe Biden, who defeated Donald Trump in a free and fair election, and will be the 46th President of the United States at noon on January 20, 2021. Votes are still being counted in several states, so the popular vote margin will continue to grow. Trump continues to file frivolous lawsuits and all-caps tweets alleging voter fraud and that the election was stolen, just as he promised to do before the election. In those lawsuits, no evidence of fraud has been provided.
Trump is successfully undermining faith in our elections among many of his supporters. Most top Republicans are choosing their words carefully and refusing to acknowledge Biden as President-Elect. Some are choosing their words less carefully and indicating their support for ending our democracy and keeping power regardless of the vote. But Trump has no legal path.
Trump has also fired most of the civilian pentagon leadership and replaced it with loyalists, while continuing to claim he won the election. Secretary of State Pompeo said there will be ‘a smooth transition to a second Trump administration’ and when given an opportunity later refused to say he was joking.
Prediction markets are offering a 10% return even now for betting on Biden, including at BetFair where the resolution rule is ‘projected winner’ so according to their rules as written Biden has already won and they should have paid out last week. You can bet hundreds of thousands of dollars that way at any time at those odds. PredictIt’s markets are even crazier.
We really do live in (at least and probably more than) two disjoint realities.
Any number of things could happen (probably won’t, almost certainly won’t, but could) between now and January 20.
Also, the pandemic is completely out of control.
So for many reasons, it wouldn’t be a terrible idea to maintain and even top off the emergency supply stash just in case things turn truly ugly. Very low probability but highly dangerous tail risk events are worth guarding against.
The anti-politics rules for the comment section still apply, now more than ever. Do not discuss politics in the comments section except as it directly relates to Covid-19. Definitely stay away from any discussions or debates about voter fraud or who is or isn’t committing a coup or autogolpe. This is not the place. Reign of terror rules apply here.
If you know me and want to discuss politics to better understand what is happening, I’m not against that at all, but contact me privately.
(Or if you want to talk about other stuff, that sounds good too, I don’t talk to friends often enough.)
Deaths
| Date | WEST | MIDWEST | SOUTH | NORTHEAST |
| Sep 10-Sep 16 | 1159 | 954 | 3199 | 373 |
| Sep 17-Sep 23 | 1016 | 893 | 2695 | 399 |
| Sep 24-Sep 30 | 934 | 990 | 2619 | 360 |
| Oct 1-Oct 7 | 797 | 1103 | 2308 | 400 |
| Oct 8-Oct 14 | 782 | 1217 | 2366 | 436 |
| Oct 15-Oct 21 | 804 | 1591 | 2370 | 523 |
| Oct 22-Oct 28 | 895 | 1701 | 2208 | 612 |
| Oct 29-Nov 4 | 956 | 1977 | 2309 | 613 |
| Nov 5-Nov 11 | 1089 | 2688 | 2535 | 870 |
We knew it was coming. You still hate to see it. The Midwest and Northeast numbers shot way up and there is no good news anywhere. New York’s number rose from 95 to 158 and is now clearly distinguishable from zero on the chart. There is no reason to not expect an even larger percentage rise in deaths in the next few weeks. We will doubtless hit 2,000 per day soon. I still would be very surprised to hit the scare tactic number of 400k deaths in 2020, as that would require averaging 3,340 per day from here, and I don’t think there is enough time for that to happen.
Positive Tests
| Date | WEST | MIDWEST | SOUTH | NORTHEAST |
| Sep 10-Sep 16 | 45050 | 75264 | 115812 | 23755 |
| Sep 17-Sep 23 | 54025 | 85381 | 127732 | 23342 |
| Sep 24-Sep 30 | 55496 | 92932 | 106300 | 27214 |
| Oct 1-Oct 7 | 56742 | 97243 | 110170 | 34042 |
| Oct 8-Oct 14 | 68284 | 125744 | 117995 | 38918 |
| Oct 15-Oct 21 | 75571 | 149851 | 133238 | 43325 |
| Oct 22-Oct 28 | 94983 | 181881 | 158123 | 57420 |
| Oct 29-Nov 4 | 112684 | 252917 | 167098 | 70166 |
| Nov 5-Nov 11 | 157378 | 384862 | 206380 | 108581 |
The Midwest is completely out of control, with cases doubling in the last two weeks. Other areas are better, but not much better. Things in South Dakota are very, very bad and that was several days ago. The Midwest and West are already at record levels. The Northeast should be at record levels within a week or two, the South within one to three. Testing is increasing, but it is only a small part of the story and the testing we have is increasingly inadequate to the task at hand in most states.
Positive Test Percentages
| Percentages | Northeast | Midwest | South | West |
| 9⁄3 to 9⁄9 | 1.97% | 6.02% | 8.48% | 4.13% |
| 9⁄10 to 9⁄16 | 2.41% | 5.99% | 11.35% | 4.49% |
| 9⁄17 to 9⁄23 | 2.20% | 5.96% | 7.13% | 4.11% |
| 9⁄24 to 9⁄30 | 2.60% | 6.17% | 6.18% | 4.27% |
| 10⁄1 to 10⁄7 | 2.61% | 6.05% | 6.74% | 4.23% |
| 10⁄8 to 10⁄14 | 2.57% | 8.14% | 7.09% | 4.75% |
| 10⁄15 to 10⁄22 | 2.95% | 8.70% | 7.85% | 5.36% |
| 10⁄22 to 10⁄28 | 3.68% | 9.87% | 8.58% | 6.46% |
| 10⁄29 to 11⁄4 | 4.28% | 12.79% | 8.86% | 7.04% |
| 11⁄5 to 11⁄11 | 5.56% | 17.51% | 9.89% | 8.31% |
Once again, disaster across the board but the Midwest is in especially deep trouble. Iowa and South Dakota are above 50% positive test results. I would have thought that essentially the maximum, and means we have no idea how many infections are being missed and can expect to undercount deaths as well because many will go undiagnosed. But North Dakota is now at 72% positive which was never seen even in the worst places in New York City. So it’s possible.
Test Counts
| Date | USA tests | Positive % | NY tests | Positive % | Cumulative Positives |
| Sep 3-Sep 9 | 4,849,134 | 5.3% | 552,624 | 0.9% | 1.93% |
| Sep 10-Sep 16 | 4,631,408 | 5.8% | 559,463 | 0.9% | 2.01% |
| Sep 17-Sep 23 | 5,739,853 | 5.2% | 610,802 | 0.9% | 2.10% |
| Sep 24-Sep 30 | 5,839,627 | 5.1% | 618,378 | 1.1% | 2.19% |
| Oct 1-Oct 7 | 6,021,807 | 5.2% | 763,935 | 1.3% | 2.29% |
| Oct 8-Oct 14 | 6,327,972 | 5.8% | 850,223 | 1.1% | 2.40% |
| Oct 15-Oct 21 | 6,443,371 | 6.5% | 865,890 | 1.2% | 2.52% |
| Oct 22-Oct 28 | 6,936,300 | 7.5% | 890,185 | 1.4% | 2.68% |
| Oct 29-Nov 4 | 7,244,347 | 8.6% | 973,777 | 1.6% | 2.87% |
| Nov 5-Nov 11 | 8,185,154 | 10.3% | 1,059,559 | 2.4% | 3.13% |
So much for New York being able to keep things under control. No place in America is safe.
This will likely only get worse. Yesterday’s positive rate was 12.7%. Next week looks in expectation to be something like a 12.9% positive rate on 9 million tests and an average of 1,200 deaths per day. Which means half the time it will be worse than that. Yikes.
Europe
Lockdowns in the United Kingdom, France and Belgium (see below section for Belgium, which I keep off the charts because of scale issues) seem to have at least stabilized matters, although at a terrible level, and deaths will continue to rise for several weeks. Belgium is now making clar progress. France might be, but I don’t believe the spike can be as sharp as the above graph, and it looks like reported tests for that last day are way down, so it’s too early to know what’s happening there. Germany’s half measures seem to be slowing down the rate at which things get worse but not doing enough to stop things getting worse.
Getting away from an unambiguous hockey stick is great news compared to the alternative, but at first glance it looks like a lot of countries are signing up for long periods in limbo again, with highly damaging lockdown restrictions that aren’t strong enough to quickly get the job done. The exception, perhaps, is the hardest hit place of all: Belgium.
Lockdown in Belgium
Belgium’s lockdown is rather strict. It turns out that when you care enough to do it properly, yes, lockdowns still work. And they work fast.
They don’t work quite as fast as this indicates…
…because either they are doing less testing or the reporting of tests lags a bit, but it does seem that things are turning around.
Whereas other European nations are doing relatively half-assed lockdowns while keeping schools open. That is not going as well. For graphs, see the Europe numbers section.
The song remains the same. Either lockdown and try to win for real, or accept defeat for real. Half measures end up in limbo.
All I Want For Christmas Is a Covid Vaccine
It’s happening!
Not for me until next year. Not for most of you either. But it is happening.
The question now is: What does this mean in practical terms?
In the short term, for the next few months and the wave of infections currently upon us, it means nothing. This wave will almost certainly peak before the vaccine has time to have a non-trivial impact on the pandemic.
A few months from now, health care workers will hopefully get vaccinated. That expands the capacity of the hospital system and other health care a substantial amount, because workers can take less precautions and fewer of them will be out sick. That’s great, but on its own it won’t move the needle that much on the overall course of the pandemic.
Early next year, there will be enough people vaccinated that it has a substantial impact on the overall arc of the pandemic. Alas, it is likely that people’s control systems will kick in, and rather than take less risk in order to wait for a vaccine, the majority of people will instead take more risk because they’ll sense things are less dangerous. So if you are a responsible person waiting for your turn to get the vaccine, you’ll need to continue to be careful up until your turn. With vaccination on the horizon, the value of not being infected will be very high.
My guess is that some time between March and July, there will be enough vaccine doses that anyone who actively seeks out the vaccine will be able to get it. At that point, you’ll be able to return to your old life. Dr. Fauci said April for widespread availability after I’d written that guess, smack in the middle of the range, so it seems like the right estimate.
A few months after that, enough people will be vaccinated that life overall starts to feel normal again. I hope.
A lot of things could change that timeline. A key question will be whether we only have one vaccine available, or whether we will have multiple vaccines. The Pfizer vaccine is harder to scale than the others, because it requires extreme cold storage and two doses, and the effects of having multiple available vaccines would mostly be additive.
CEO of Pfizer will take the vaccine first in order to reassure people that it is safe. Skin in the game at its finest. Also a great excuse to get yourself first in line for the vaccine. That’s all right. He’s earned it.
Don’t Care How I Want It Now
When should we begin distribution of the vaccine? How should we choose who gets the vaccine? How much should we be ramping up production? What about other vaccine candidates?
First question is easy. We should begin vaccine distribution yesterday. The ‘good’ news is that not doing so is a small mistake due to limited dose capacity, and the ability for now to keep what doses do exist in cold storage until needed. So by waiting, we are moving some vaccinations from November into December, but not (as I understand it) delaying vaccination in general. That’s unfortunate because getting our health care workers vaccinated now would be a big help, but far less bad than many other mistakes that are being made.
Second question is not as easy. A lot more people want the vaccine as soon as possible than we will have doses available any time soon, so we must choose who gets the vaccine first. It’s clear that using prices is a non-starter because people wouldn’t stand for it, so I won’t bother making that case.
Doing distribution via lottery allows us to conduct (semi) natural experiments to see how effective and how safe the vaccine is on larger sample sizes, at little extra cost. With prices unavailable, some form of lottery should clearly be part of the solution, whether it’s by birthday, or by area, or something else. I don’t expect us to do this.
I do hold out hope we can give priority to essential workers, especially health care workers. As noted above, vaccinating health care workers not only helps stop the spread, it expands our ability to provide treatment. It also seems highly equitable. These people are putting themselves on the front lines, they get the vaccine first.
Other essential workers that need to interact with others to do their jobs can follow after that.
The core argument there is that what matters is getting the pandemic under control and being able to provide essential services, so we should concentrate on the most exposed first.
The other argument is that we should instead protect the most vulnerable first, and give the vaccine to the elderly or those with other conditions that put them at higher risk of death.
Both sides can point to models that say their way is better. Both sides can make a moral case that they are right. Both factors matter, so it’s a trade-off question.
The important thing is that we get the vaccine out, as quickly as possible, to as many people as possible.
Then there are those who disagree. They have other priorities.
Andrew Cuomo Is The Worst
Can we finally all agree that Andrew Cuomo is a giant douchebag and always was?
He has already extensively lectured everyone on how we can’t trust a vaccine that was developed under Trump’s watch. Now that one is coming, he’s stepped up his game.
He is now saying that it is “bad news” that the vaccine was developed while Trump was in office and he is going to “work with other governors to stop distribution of the vaccine.” Because, you see, they’re having “private providers” distribute the vaccine, which will “leave out” some communities. Seriously. Listen to the clip.
So the vaccine is a cupcake that you have to throw away because you didn’t bring enough for the rest of the class and – seriously listen to the clip if you don’t believe me but this is what he is actually saying – some people don’t live close enough to a CVS, so no one should get vaccinated until Biden is in the White House.
Alternatively: If we don’t do something to stop it, someone somewhere might have two cows.
He is saying that everyone needs to have equal access to health care, and to achieve that he’s going to actively stop others from getting it. Because otherwise, when Biden takes office, he can’t “undo” what Trump has done, and those people will have permanently gotten the vaccine earlier than some other people.
Lest anyone accuse me of false equivalence on Covid-19, let me be clear. This isn’t equivalent to denying there is pandemic or engaging in literal piracy and banditry of medical equipment.
This is worse.
If you don’t believe one should ever hate anyone or anything, then I congratulate and salute you on your enlightened attitude. However, if you believe it is good and right to sometimes hate at all, and you hate this with less than the fire of a thousand suns, you aren’t hating it with the fire of enough suns.
Pitchforks are available at Home Depot and many other fine stores.
We’ll Need More
How much should we ramp up production? We should do all the ramping up of all the production.
Look at what happened to the stock market on the day Pfizer announced its results, note that Pfizer was only a tiny fraction of total gains and went up far less than many other businesses, and then note that the stock market’s gains are a small fraction of the real human gains in economic terms. And the economic damage is only part of the toll on human lives even for those who stay healthy.
If you do the math on how much it is worth to end this pandemic one day sooner, the answer comes back to a much higher order of magnitude than it would cost to speed up vaccine production and make that happen.
We missed our chance to do this in the development stage, but we can still do it in the distribution stage. The more money we can throw at this problem to get more production faster, the better. I do not care what it costs.
We will also need more different vaccines. Even with the right incentives, Pfizer will not be able to produce enough quickly enough on its own, so the other candidates (that turn out to be effective) need to help out as well.
There are several nightmare scenarios that need to be avoided. If you are in any kind of position to ensure that these do not come to pass, please do everything you can to help!
The first nightmare is if vaccine trials are not allowed to continue once the first emergency use authorization is given. The argument will be that it is not “ethical” to continue to not vaccinate the control group. This is pure insanity, and it is even more pure insanity when there isn’t enough vaccine to go around and those in the control group could not otherwise have gotten it anyway.
I’m still naive enough to think we’re not that insane. At least not yet. But I’m still worried this might happen! Both for the Pfizer trial, and for other vaccine trials. We need to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Even worse would be denying the EUA because of fears that the trials would end if the EUA was given. This is seriously something we have to worry about – that our “ethics” principles are so reversed that we need to deny everyone the vaccine in order to deny the vaccine to the few people we need to not (yet) vaccinate.
There’s the nightmare that Andrew Cuomo or others like him hold up distribution, as described above in his own section. Please do not let this happen.
The mistake I fear the most is that we might refuse to allow a second vaccine because it is ‘less effective’ than the first vaccine. That Pfizer’s comes in at let’s say 91% effective, and then AstraZenica’s is 87% effective, and because of that they refuse to approve it, even though Pfizer won’t have enough doses available for years. From what I can tell, this is a real worry and this could actually happen. Similar things happen all the time.
Immunity to Covid-19 For Some, Miniature American Flags for Others
Thanks to a combination of the existing anti-vaccination movement, and the fears that were raised during the campaign by the likes of Andrew Cuomo and Kamala Harris, there will be a lot of people who are reluctant to take the vaccine, or at least to take it relatively early. It might even be a majority of Americans who are not interested.
When I posted to Twitter about the vaccine, several responses were to inform me that the person responding was most definitely not interested in taking a Covid-19 vaccine, and found me rather crazy for wanting to take one.
In the long term, that’s a problem. We need to get enough people vaccinated that we can resume normal activities. If we only get half the people, especially the half we’d get in this scenario, that on its own won’t be enough.
In the short term, this may sound like a problem, but actually this is great. We don’t have enough vaccine doses for everyone who wants it. If half the people volunteer to opt out of the process, then the rest of us can get vaccinated twice as fast, and can be less worried about not being high in the priority queue.
Then, in the long term, there will be hundreds of millions of us around the world who have gotten a Covid-19 vaccine. Our experiences will prove it is safe, and most of the people doubting now can follow later. If they like, they can feel smart for having waited to be sure. Or, if they prefer, they can acknowledge their mistake. Either way seems fine.
That still leaves the hardcore anti-vax people, but we were never winning them over in any case, and I don’t think there will be enough of them left to cause a major problem.
What The Hell Is Happening To Us?
Venk Murphy, newly tapped as one of the heads of the new Covid-19 advisory board, points out this story that those who had Covid-19 are 20% likely to have gotten a new mental illness in the last 90 days, which is twice as high as the general population.
It’s easy to bury the lede here. Yes, 20% of people who survive Covid-19 getting a new mental illness is really bad. I was going to ask whether this result was expected. With the broad ways we today define mental illness, combined with the trauma of dealing with the virus, it would make sense that a lot of people would develop a problem at least in the short term under our technical definitions.
I’d also note that this is among people who know they had Covid-19, not the entire group of people who did have Covid-19. That’s a big difference, and is likely pushing up the difference quite a bit. It’s also the better thing to track, though. It’s no surprise that it is not trauamtic to get asymptomatic Covid-19.
But that all misses the point. 20% of people who survive symptomatic Covid-19 having a new mental illness is bad. But 10% of the entire population developing a new mental illness every three months is much worse!
That’s more than a third of the population each year. That’s… really terrible.
[EDIT: It turns out that I misunderstood, and this was instead a risk ratio of 1.65 for the population that got any form of care. It makes sense that this group would have more issues than the general population, but that population includes 65 million people.
Even if it wasn’t fully accurate, the claim resonated broadly, which is scary enough.]
Multiple friends of mine with no connection to each other responded that 10% matches their observations. That’s how bad it is to live under these conditions. How much of that is the pandemic versus the rest of American life today is an open question, but it’s clear something is deeply, deeply screwed up here.
For comparison to pre-Covid, I googled and found this, which claims 26% of Americans have a diagnosable (not necessarily diagnosed) mental disorder in a given year, and this source claims 46% will suffer from a mental illness at some point in their lives, which presumably are all pre-Covid stats. These numbers are much higher than for the rest of the world.
I don’t know the usual duration of a mental illness, but if you combine 26% suffering in a given year with 46% suffering at least once at some point, you definitely get a radically different picture than looking at a 10% chance of a new problem every three months.
Someone I know reports that the majority of her daughter’s remote learning class is newly suffering from depression. When she described how the school was running things, and how their entire lives had become dominated by a combination of being tied to screens and then potential and real interruptions demanding proofs of work at any and all hours of the day in order to destroy the lives of both the kids and their parents, I didn’t have to wonder why.
(Then I may have gotten the parents to form a union that fought back and forced the school to change its policies. But that’s another story.)
This is all only part of the non-economic cost of our countermeasures to contain the virus. What percent chance of death should a person risk to avoid developing a mental illness?
The question of ‘why were so many of us were already so mentally screwed up’ is an important one, but beyond the scope of this column.
In Other News
In other Andrew Cuomo being the worst news, gyms, bars and restaurants with liquor licenses can stay open but have to close by 10pm. I do not wonder what will happen to capacity utilization when we cut the number of hours available. The bars might be a net benefit because people act stupid at night, maybe even the restaurants, but closing the gyms some of the time definitely makes us less safe. He’s also limiting indoor gatherings to 10 people. Which is at least somewhat helpful. Although, I wonder to what extent telling people the limit is ten causes ten person gatherings.
I remember a few days ago when there were musings like this: Will a small, long-shot U.S. company end up producing the best coronavirus vaccine? They still might. It’s great that we have so many backup plans.
Did you know that congress set aside money so airports could do Covid-19 tests, and then the FAA kept the submitted proposal in limbo where it still is today? Thus no screenings at airports.
On a related note, what happened to the rapid tests? Exactly what you would think. Regulations and regulatory uncertainty.
This thread claims that a 22-day delay from positive tests to deaths best matches state data. That is on the extreme high end of my range based on the approaches I’ve taken, which focus more on the national and New York levels, but is plausible. Longer delays are worse news given the current situation. My guess is that you see the biggest direct impact at more like 14 days, but with other deaths that take longer, so if you pick one number it will depend on how you define your error term.
Deutche Bank proposes a 5% tax on those who work from home voluntarily, to ‘support those whose jobs are under threat.’ I know I was talking about maximizing harm in the name of showing concern, but even I am impressed by this one.
Marginal Revolution offers words of wisdom on how we are told to put our lives on hold but all vaccine development doesn’t have to figure out how to approve and distribute a vaccine while continuing to conduct clinical trials, and this is threatening to potentially take away months of our lives for actual zero reason.
Did you know that being indoors with others is ‘safe’ under a certain threshold of infections but ‘unsafe’ over that threshold? “Some experts” are here to remind us that this is how they model the world. In case it wasn’t obvious, these actions were never safe.
Anecdotes are what they are, but this was only the latest example of someone reporting falling mask use. I’m guessing this is a lot of why things are getting so bad. This isn’t complicated.
In case you are wondering how we handled Covid-19 in prisons, this answer from Texas is not reassuring, and reminds us how bad Covid-19 can get under worst-case conditions.
CDC finally admits, this week, that mask wearing benefits the wearer and not only those around them. Better (ridiculously over the top amounts of) late than never, I suppose.
North Denmark in lockdown over mutated virus in mink farms, and all the minks were going to be killed, because minks are highly vulnerable to Covid-19 and there was worry about potential mutations. I was all ready to give kudos to Denmark for treating this problem with most of the seriousness it deserved, and thinking that maybe, just maybe, there is a threshold where we get ourselves together. Then some Danish MPs started complaining about the threat to livelihoods and claiming that the cull order was illegal, and the government backed down. It seems you can lock down the people and destroy their livelihoods together, but threaten the mink farm lobby and there will be hell to pay. A sobering turn of events.
Also, somewhat off topic, but relevant to how decisions are being made these days: while Denmark is farming fifteen million minks in cages and cares more about doing that then guarding against the mutation of a global pandemic, they also banned butchering of kosher and halal meat in 2015. I would wonder why, except that I don’t wonder why.
Even more off topic but worth pointing out: The Netflix series The Queen’s Gambit is excellent and you should watch it. Tier one, must see.
The Winds of Winter
A vaccine is coming. If you want it but do not have priority, chances are you will get it some time around April. That’s five months from now.
Meanwhile, cases are soaring. Positive test rates are over 10% and rising at >15% per week. Deaths are rising over 15% per week. Hospital systems are starting to become overloaded in the hardest hit areas, with the worst yet to come. Things are even worse in Europe.
The value of staying safe is higher than it has been since April. For at least the next two months, that value will only rise.
The chances of becoming infected are at an all-time high. If you become ill during the next few months, there is serious danger that the hospital system you arrive at will be rationing care. Our care has improved greatly, but temporarily it will likely get worse.
Whereas if you make it to April, you can get a vaccine, and be (not entirely, but mostly) safe permanently. The cost of staying safe is only about five months of precautions, rather than an open-ended nightmare.
There are many variables to consider, but a rough estimate would be that the effective risk level of a given activity is somewhere between double and ten times the rate it was a month ago. That’s why I’ve been saying for weeks that if you have a risk that you need to take, that is worth taking, take it sooner rather than later.
Whatever level of precautions you decided were appropriate before, you should increase that level.
Because everything works in power laws, it isn’t obvious that this will have a major impact on the way you live your life over the next five months, if you were already working or going to school from home and generally playing on the ‘safe’ side of things. I often mock calling some things ‘safe’ and some things ‘unsafe’ as a binary, but most things are clearly on one side or the other of that binary. There aren’t that many things that are borderline choices!
If you are forced to take risks, now is the time to do everything possible to minimize those risks.
But as always, think ahead! You need to retain your safety and sanity for at least several months before things improve, and likely at least five before the vaccine is available. Do not put yourself on a path that you cannot sustain.
Do I still think the worst is probably behind us? I do, but I am more concerned that the medical system will collapse, in which case things could quickly become very bad. It also seems more plausible that people’s control systems have broken down – people may be so sick of it at all that they won’t adjust, at the very time safety is most valuable both personally and collectively.
The next few months are going to be difficult, but assuming a peaceful transition of power (even after everything, I still can’t quite fully believe that I need to write those words, but I do) the supply chains will hold. Our health care workers and other essential employees will have the equipment they need. Many of the most vulnerable will have a chance to protect themselves. A vaccine is on its way. And it’s a grim thing to say, but already 3.13% of the United States has tested positive, with the likely true infection rate closer to 20% and rising quickly.
It may not feel like it, but this wave is the climax. We are eight months in and more than halfway home, but we need to hold things together until the tide turns.
It can be done. Let’s hope we have the will to do it.
By the way, my mom told me recently she was speaking with a friend from Russia. Her friend went to a clinic and tested positive for covid. Then they went again and tested negative. They asked what the deal was. They were told by a doctor in a very straightforward manner that: “the state tells us how many positive tests we can report per week.” There’s some chance that they don’t even do testing in some clinics, but just assign results randomly to people following the state’s prescription.
I’d assume that the state was saying there was a maximum number of positives rather than a target number? I don’t see any reason to assign false positives on purpose. So I’d assume, if the doctor is telling the truth (and I am guessing that he is) that what is happening is that they report true results except that they turn some positives to negative if they are hitting their limit, or the positive test isn’t a good use of a positive test, or something.
Right.
Fun Autocracy Facts:
This type of bureaucratic malpractice is particularly common in autocracies. The regime (top leadership) regime wants to know the problem and provide good policies to protect from overthrow. Their desire to avoid embarrassment is a bit lower. The bureaucrats are different. They care much less about the regime being overthrown but want to avoid embarrassment and hard work. So for bureaucrat the incentives to non-comply are strong. Democratic systems have the same problem, but have independent judiciaries and legislatures to share in overseeing the bureaucracy. To conclude:
This narrative is highly plausible. Our prior that mass data faking happens should be high.
We cannot assume that the regime (Putin) is aware of this.
For a paper on similar problems in China see or my paper on Jordan
People are likely to miss the extent of the market reaction, due to a focus on market indexes which include both companies that benefit from the pandemic and those that are hurt by it.
The S&P 500 initially rose 4% in response to the vaccine news, but gave back most of those gains by the end of the day.
Here’s a selection of interesting reactions (Monday’s close versus Friday’s close):
Zoom Video −17%
Alpha Pro Tech [makes PPE] −15%
Amazon −5%
Hawaiian Holdings [airline] +51%
AMC Entertainment [movie theaters] +51%
Norwegian Cruise Line +27%
Lyft +26%
Cedar Fair [amusement parks] +25%
The Cuomo video does not have the quote “stop the distribution of the vaccine”, the clip says that Cuomo wants to shape or stop Trump’s *plan*. This could mean that an alternative plan would be implemented that would fulfill the Cuomo’s requirements.
I feel that getting the quote right is necessary if one is literally calling for pitchforks.
These coronavirus posts are otherwise an excellent community resource and you are making them less valuable.
While I understand that this was first written for your own personal blog and then republished here, I do not believe that the entire section on Trump is appropriate in a LessWrong context. Not just in terms of Politics is the Mind Killer over the contentious claims you make, but primarily over the assertion that you can make contentious claims and shut down discussion over them. This seems like a very serious norms violation regarding what LessWrong is about.
I do think this concern is right and appropriate to raise. I didn’t include that section lightly, but didn’t feel like I had a choice given the situation. I did realize that there was a cost to doing it.
As habryka says, these are written for my personal blog, and reposted to LessWrong automatically. I am happy that the community gets use out of them, but they are not designed for the front page of LessWrong or its norms. They couldn’t be anyway, because time sensitive stuff is not front page material.
I don’t believe I made contentious claims on non-Covid topics. But to the extent that I did do that, no one saying you have to accept them or agree with them. But I do not think discussion in comments would be productive—only bad things would likely happen if one started—and I’m setting norms to that effect.
I agree that politics is the mindkiller and so I make every effort to avoid it whenever possible even when not trying to abide by LW norms. Unless things that I consider very low probability to happen, happen, the issue won’t come up again.
I think it would be both more effective and more LessWrong-norm-ish to argue that there was no widespread election fraud rather than claim that there was no widespread election fraud. Like, describe and refute specific claims, or at least tell readers that you dug into them before dismissing them (I assume you did). It only takes a sentence or two! You link to the best arguments on both sides, and then say you read them both, and this one checks out, and that one is full of easily-refuted lies and confusions. Or whatever. Otherwise what’s the point? Most of your audience already agrees with you, the rest will assume you’re just another sucker who blindly trusts the lamestream media… :-P
What happens if you update the article on your website? Is it reimported automatically?
Is it possible to edit the imported article afterwards?
Would it makes sense to support HTML tags like <div class=”lesswrong-exclude”>...</div>? (Probably only useful for people who edit the HTML code manually; not possible in WYSIWYG editors.)
It needs to be reimported, it does not automatically update. If I change only a few words it is easy to fix twice, but more than that I have them do a reimport.
The norms are that you get to talk about whatever you want, including election stuff, on your personal blog (which this and basically all other Coronavirus posts are on). We might hide things from the frontpage and all-posts page completely if they seem to get out of hand. On personal blog, bringing up a topic but asking others not to talk about it, also seems totally fine to me. If you want to respond you can always create a new top-level post (though in either case people might downvote stuff).
This norm does seem right to me but it is probably worth noting the asymmetry in audience between a typical personal blog post and these COVID updates. I feel like Zvi has earned the right to do this if he wants but would personally prefer the topics to be separated into different posts.
Agreed that doing what I did here on a regular basis would be quite bad. You and/or history can decide whether it was appropriate, but I hope to never do it again to this extent.
Being a “personal blog” seems like a bit of a technicality when I come to the site and it shows up on my front page like any other post.
In order to see personal blogposts on the frontpage, you have to (at some point of using LessWrong) explicitly enabled the display of personal blogposts. New users and unregistered visitors do not have personal blogposts show up in the same way.
I don’t have Personal enabled under Latest and thus I don’t see the personal blog posts under “Latest”. But I do see them under “Recent Discussion”, maybe that is what ShardPhoenix is referring to? (In fact this is how I arrived here)
Ah, yeah. They do still show up under Recent Discussion. Fair point.
I suspect a bug. I have no recollection of turning personal blog posts on, but I still see the tag on next to Latest. It’s entirely possible that I forgot about this, but that doesn’t sound like a thing I’d do.
(That said, just realizing I can set a personal blog post penalty of −25 is going to make LessWrong much more tolerable.)
We’ve maintained backwards compatibility with many past iterations of filtering out personal blogposts. So you might have sometime in the past checked one of the checkboxes we had on the frontpage for filtering out personal blogposts.
Yeah, it’s easier to abstain talking about politics if the article doesn’t do it first.
Otherwise, great article and thanks for the work you put into it!
I sympathize, but I think it’s better if we allow this kind of thing, generally, under the conditions ‘we’ require now.
And, as other comments mention, you can discuss these things, even on LessWrong. And I think it should be fine to make a comment, e.g. on this post, linking to your own response to the ‘forbidden’ topics.
Shutting down comments is not shutting down all discussion. If you have a disagreement that you find needs to be heard you can still write your own post to voice it.
Top-level posts are more important then comments for LessWrong and the LessWrong policy is that to encourage people to make top-level post this comes with the right to dictate the comment policy freely.
I just saw this in recent discussion, just want to add a detail to Christian’s comment, which is that you can dictate comment policy freely on Personal Blog; there are more standards for Frontpage posts.
The FAQ says:
If there are more standards for the moderation of Frontpage posts, where are they written down?
Yeah, looks like we don’t have super much on the comment moderation on frontpage posts. Generally, we apply roughly the same dimensions for evaluating comments as for posts, which are listed here:
This comment might also provide some useful additional clarification.
Below the comment box on every frontpage post (after you click on it), it also shows a set of guidelines:
You’re not exactly wrong, but OP does tell us people are being irrational in ways that you could use to get cold hard cash.
Which claims, specifically, do you have evidence against (of any weight)?
The fact that people are making mouth noises that could be interpreted as disagreeing with the accuracy of a claim (ie, the claim is contentious) is not evidence against the claim. And such mouth noises should not discourage the distribution of true information.
I’m not going to delete this question, but please don’t answer it. That’s the discussion I do not want to have.
I only today realized that you started making “Personal Blog” posts a while back, which means they weren’t showing up on the front page. I thought you were taking a long hiatus from blogging. So I totally missed when things went from “kind of bad but getting better” to “nope, nope, nope, this is the worst it has ever been”. Sigh.
Technically everything starts as Personal Blog and then gets migrated. LW decided time-sensitive posts are never front page, so you never saw anything in the series.
(I do think I had a few front-page things during this period, mainly the Simulacra posts)
I’m not sure how it worked before, but I saw your posts reliably on the main page (up until about 1.5 months ago). I’m talking to habryka about it here.
I think we had a bug for a bit, something like a month ago, that caused some users to have a reset to their frontpage filters when they edited their account in some specific ways. Not super many users were affected, which is why we didn’t make a big announcement about it, but given your experience, my guess is that your filters were probably reset sometime around that time. Super sorry about that.
I’d very much like to read about bugs, or other changes, even if they don’t warrant a big announcement. Maybe the team could post on the site itself, with a special tag that can be followed separately (if you don’t want to include them in the ‘all posts’ feed).
Thanks for your help keeping this site running!
We do have an issue tracker, though I won’t claim that it has all of the bugs we notice on it:
https://github.com/LessWrong2/Lesswrong2/issues
But your feedback is well-taken. We have kind of slacked off in updating people on a bunch of the changes we’ve been making. Maybe we want to start our monthly dev-updates series again.
Please heavily weight your own time and effort in your considerations about how to publish the updates. I’m a little sad that you described it as having “slacked off”. The dev-update you linked to looks like it must have taken a good while to create!
I was following the GitHub project directly for a good while and that was a great way to follow your activity. And it’s impressive! You all are killing it! Thanks again!
Thank you! :)
Ah ok, no worries. Mostly I’m just happy that Zvi is actually still posting. :D
That’s not what the paper says. It says that 10% of people with the flu or a broken bone in 2020 are getting diagnosed. It doesn’t say how many people with the flu or a broken bone were diagnosed in 2019, nor how many people without any other reason to go to the doctor in 2020.
Ah, whoops. Generally the flu doesn’t seem like it should cause depression that much, but it presumably should have some effect, especially when people worry they have Covid-19 instead. I’ll think about this more.
I edited the original after looking at the paper. It’s a RR of 1.65 for anyone who got care at all versus Covid-19, which is… I think somewhat less scary but most certainly not reassuring.
Mods, please re-import.
(done)
Specifically on the Pfizer press release. Due to various medical conditions I have been following medical research, press releases, government policy etc for many decades and have read cubic meters of medical research papers, textbooks, statistics texts etc.
TL;DR and one thing I have learned : A press release from a pharmaceutical company saying <thing> is very weak evidence that <thing> is true.
In any case realistically a vaccine rollout is extremely unlikely to be done before the end of 2021. This is a best case scenario. And we do not know the extent of the economic damage.
I totally agree that in general a press release is not strong evidence, but in this case we have additional sources of evidence, and also Pfizer has little incentive to put out hype if it can’t deliver, unless I’m missing something. Would be very curious to know why they’d want to do that.
Dr. Fauci explicitly expects an EUA in December with some distribution, and widespread availability by April 2021. Pfizer claims they have 50mm doses now and will have over a billion next year. They say they can distribute the day after EUA, and that they intend to apply within a week.
I am curious why you think such claims are being made and where your model differs from theirs if they are not flat out flying. Are they mistaken, if so what about? Are they lying, if so why?
How strong as evidence are similar press releases tho? Pharmaceutical companies create lots of press releases.
Press releases about defined endpoints of phase 3 trials are the ones that move the stock price the most, next to mergers. Probably across all companies, not just pharma. The SEC would come calling if they were lies.
That was my basic understanding as well. The claims in these kinds of press releases would be particularly scrutinized by, e.g. the SEC, FDA, etc..
I hadn’t known until I met someone that did it, but many (basically all?) companies have investor relations personnel or consultants. I know that some of those IR people also specialize in pharmaceutical or biomedical companies. They would definitely be involved in writing these kinds of press releases too.
At the moment some people seem to have the goal of distributing BioNtec vaccine everywhere. Given that there are a limited number of those vaccine dosis and it’s likely that we soon have other vaccines that don’t need to be cooled to −70C it might be better to focus on distributing the BioNtec vaccine in cities that don’t have a problem with the cooling.
I think there’s a good chance that we waste a lot of resources trying to get −70C cooling to third world countries only to in the end only deliever them a meaningful amount of vaccines that don’t need to be cooled.
I’ve been watching Joe Rogan interview with Elon Musk, back from May 7th this year, and they both thought that we kind of overreacted to the virus. At first we thought it was going to be very deadly for everyone, but in a few months it became clear that it was just going to be deadly for elderly and people at risk. (“The average age of a person who dies from covid is the average age of a person who dies from anything.”)
If that’s the case, then I agree with their conclusion that we should open everything up and basically just focus on helping/protecting the people at risk.
Zvi, I’m curious if that’s your take too?
I think that no restrictions would have been foolish in March/April, but that over time the argument for letting people do what they want has grown stronger. Basically you need to choose: Are you actually going to fight this thing, or not? If so, fight to win. If not, accept the consequences.
I view what is happening now as mostly accepting the consequences. All we see from any state is stuff like closing bars and gyms after 10pm. That isn’t even pretending to pretend to address the situation.
The rate of death is roughly proportional to the rate of natual death at a person’s age, yes—but you MASSIVELY increase your rate of death when you get it.
I have a hard time blaming the people of Oklahoma for giving up.
We’re all tired of social distancing. We’re all depressed. Unemployment is at 7%, and underemployment is definitely way up. The legislature didn’t rise to the occasion. I myself have forgotten how to make pleasant conversation.
The people who benefit from lockdowns are the most isolated, so people don’t see their benefit. The people who suffer the most from the policy are the unemployed, and people see them often. Sociotropy isn’t magic; We care about the people we see suffering. The more isolated we become from eachother, the more selfish we will become.
Few Americans wake up and look at the scary COVID numbers and feel the suffering of the infected because of scope neglect. It’s the same reason we didn’t care about children dying of malaria before.
Not only do I not blame people who give up, I don’t even think giving up is unreasonable as a group decision. It’s definitely reasonable as an individual decision, especially once it is clear the group is not going to succeed. Better to give up than to half-fight a doomed battle.
Minor quibble which I hope isn’t breaking a norm: BetFair did seem to pay out last week, or at least some of the bets on who would win the presidency were settled on 07/11/20.
Do you expect we’ll be n the midst of a third wave before the vaccine begins to be doled out? Or just beginning to enter one?
Thanks for the post.
I think we are in the third wave now, and that seems unambiguous. Unless there are delays it will not be over when th vaccine is being rolled out.
As far as I can tell the exchange settled:
- Nominee markets
- State markets, excluding (AZ, GA, MI, NV, PA, WI)
They haven’t settled the big market (Next President) nor any of the key states which are “contested” (for whatever definition of contested you’re interested in) (or any of the vote percentage, EC handicap markets etc).
It’s possible the sportsbook settled the presidential market, but that’s a very different beast to the exchange. (Lots of “normal” bookies have already settled the presidential market)
This would be an interesting story to hear (read).
Not only specifically, but in the broad vein of politics especially there are often calls for lots of change at high levels, without that going anywhere. Case studies of effecting (effective) change, even* at smaller scales seem useful in that regard.
*or especially, assuming that it is easier to do so
(I wasn’t able to post this comment on the deleted comment so I’m putting it here.)
It’s nice to see explanations for deleted comments!
Sounds like something right from Liu Cixin’s “Remembrance of Earth’s past”.
Anti-escapism from The Three Body Problem also most definitely alive and well.
It also sounds like a massive misinterpretation of what was said...
I don’t think you can generalize from people developing a new mental illness in 2020 to the rate being the same all years. Our social distancing measures are going to produce some mental illness.
Thanks again!