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Steelmanning

TagLast edit: Feb 14, 2021, 7:12 AM by Yoav Ravid

Steelmanning is the act of taking a view, or opinion, or argument and constructing the strongest possible version of it. It is the opposite of strawmanning.

External Posts:
Against Steelmanning by Thing of Things

See also: Disagreement, Ideological Turing Tests, Least convenient possible world

ITT-pass­ing and ci­vil­ity are good; “char­ity” is bad; steel­man­ning is niche

Rob BensingerJul 5, 2022, 12:15 AM
161 points
36 comments6 min readLW link1 review

The Least Con­ve­nient Pos­si­ble World

Scott AlexanderMar 14, 2009, 2:11 AM
301 points
204 comments5 min readLW link

The case for us­ing the term ‘steel­man­ning’ in­stead of ‘prin­ci­ple of char­ity’

ChristianKlJun 2, 2022, 7:24 PM
26 points
7 comments3 min readLW link

Re­v­ersed Stu­pidity Is Not Intelligence

Eliezer YudkowskyDec 12, 2007, 10:14 PM
186 points
120 comments3 min readLW link

Straw-Steelmanning

Chris van MerwijkJul 13, 2022, 5:48 AM
29 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

Bet­ter Disagreement

lukeprogOct 24, 2011, 9:13 PM
90 points
84 comments4 min readLW link

In­cor­rect hy­pothe­ses point to cor­rect observations

Kaj_SotalaNov 20, 2018, 9:10 PM
167 points
40 comments4 min readLW link
(kajsotala.fi)

Against Devil’s Advocacy

Eliezer YudkowskyJun 9, 2008, 4:15 AM
50 points
60 comments6 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning as an es­pe­cially in­sidious form of strawmanning

Cornelius DybdahlMar 11, 2024, 2:25 AM
10 points
13 comments5 min readLW link

Dangers of steel­man­ning /​ prin­ci­ple of charity

gothgirl420666Jan 16, 2014, 6:35 AM
149 points
94 comments2 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning Divination

VaniverJun 5, 2019, 10:53 PM
203 points
48 comments6 min readLW link2 reviews

Steel­man­ning Inefficiency

Stuart_ArmstrongJul 3, 2014, 12:17 PM
26 points
27 comments17 min readLW link

A Prac­ti­cal Guide to Con­flict Re­s­olu­tion: Comprehension

eapacheJun 13, 2020, 3:08 PM
30 points
0 comments4 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning The Devil

ScrewtapeNov 21, 2023, 7:28 AM
10 points
0 comments5 min readLW link

On the Con­trary, Steel­man­ning Is Nor­mal; ITT-Pass­ing Is Niche

Zack_M_DavisJan 9, 2024, 11:12 PM
44 points
31 comments4 min readLW link

Defend­ing the non-cen­tral fallacy

Matthew BarnettMar 9, 2021, 9:42 PM
137 points
38 comments6 min readLW link

How to learn soft skills

AnnaSalamonFeb 7, 2015, 5:22 AM
137 points
29 comments7 min readLW link

Re­spond to what they prob­a­bly meant

Adam ZernerJan 17, 2015, 11:37 PM
19 points
42 comments3 min readLW link

The case for hypocrisy

Aaron BergmanMay 13, 2021, 3:36 AM
37 points
12 comments5 min readLW link
(aaronbergman.substack.com)

Steel­man ar­gu­ments against the idea that AGI is in­evitable and will ar­rive soon

RomanSOct 9, 2021, 6:22 AM
20 points
12 comments5 min readLW link

A Quick On­tol­ogy of Agreement

ravedonJun 26, 2022, 5:39 PM
5 points
2 comments2 min readLW link

In­ward and out­ward steelmanning

Q HomeJul 14, 2022, 11:32 PM
13 points
6 comments18 min readLW link

The Case Against Mo­ral Realism

Zero ContradictionsNov 7, 2024, 10:14 AM
−5 points
10 comments1 min readLW link
(thewaywardaxolotl.blogspot.com)

Method of state­ments: an al­ter­na­tive to taboo

Q HomeNov 16, 2022, 10:57 AM
7 points
0 comments41 min readLW link

Niche product design

Itay DreyfusJun 20, 2024, 6:34 AM
2 points
1 comment3 min readLW link
(productidentity.co)

Over­pop­u­la­tion FAQs

Zero ContradictionsAug 10, 2024, 4:21 AM
−12 points
7 comments1 min readLW link
(zerocontradictions.net)

De­mog­ra­phy and Destiny

Zero ContradictionsJul 21, 2024, 8:34 PM
6 points
11 comments1 min readLW link
(thewaywardaxolotl.blogspot.com)

The Case Against Libertarianism

Zero ContradictionsAug 3, 2024, 5:05 AM
−4 points
1 comment1 min readLW link
(zerocontradictions.net)

Sam Har­ris’s Ar­gu­ment For Ob­jec­tive Morality

Zero ContradictionsDec 5, 2024, 10:19 AM
7 points
5 comments1 min readLW link
(thewaywardaxolotl.blogspot.com)

Up­dated Hier­ar­chy of Disagreement

B JacobsMay 28, 2020, 3:57 PM
14 points
13 comments2 min readLW link

In fa­vor of steelmanning

jpMay 1, 2023, 5:12 PM
36 points
6 comments1 min readLW link

Crit­i­cism of some pop­u­lar LW articles

DirectedEvolutionJul 19, 2020, 1:16 AM
71 points
19 comments6 min readLW link

Ad­di­tional ar­gu­ments for NIMBY

ZviOct 11, 2018, 8:40 PM
32 points
10 comments13 min readLW link
(thezvi.wordpress.com)

A Prodigy of Refutation

Eliezer YudkowskySep 18, 2008, 1:57 AM
48 points
20 comments3 min readLW link

Please Don’t Fight the Hypothetical

TimSApr 20, 2012, 2:29 PM
40 points
65 comments2 min readLW link

Un­pop­u­lar ideas at­tract poor ad­vo­cates: Be charitable

[deleted]Sep 15, 2014, 7:30 PM
43 points
61 comments2 min readLW link

Good ar­gu­ments against “cul­tural ap­pro­pri­a­tion”

Tyrrell_McAllisterDec 18, 2018, 5:23 PM
24 points
12 comments2 min readLW link

Listen For What You Don’t Hear: The Case for Contrarianism

Yashvardhan SharmaAug 14, 2023, 2:53 AM
1 point
1 comment5 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning the Chi­nese Room Argument

cousin_itJul 6, 2017, 9:37 AM
10 points
313 comments1 min readLW link

[Question] Please steel­man the ac­cu­sa­tions of elec­tion fraud

Tim LiptrotNov 10, 2020, 4:39 AM
2 points
8 comments1 min readLW link

The Case for Log­i­cal Fallacies

Aaron BergmanMar 8, 2021, 3:04 AM
14 points
0 comments7 min readLW link
(aaronbergman.substack.com)
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