I mean, it’s not a big secret, there’s a wealthy person behind it. And there’s 2 potential motivations for it: 1) altruistic/mission-driven 2) helps improve the service to have more cases, which can benefit themselves as well.
But also, Oregon Brain Preservation is less expensive as a result of: 1) doing brain-only (Alcor doesn’t extract the brain for its neuro cases) 2) using chemical preservation which doesn’t require LN2 (this represents a significant portion of the cost) 3) not including the cost of stand-by, which is also a significant portion (ie. staying at your bedside in advance until you die) 4) collaborating with local funeral homes (instead of having a fully in-house team that can be deployed anywhere) 5) only offering the service locally (no flights)
I visited Oregon Brain Preservation, talked with Jordan Spark and exchanged emails, and been following them for many years, and Jordan seems really solid IMO.
Cryonics Germany people seem very caring and seem to understand well how to work with a thanatologist. I also had email exchanges with them, but not as much.
not including the cost of stand-by, which is also a significant portion (ie. staying at your bedside in advance until you die)
I assumed this was an overstatement. A quick check shows I’m wrong: TomorrowBio offer whole body (€200k) or just brain preservation (€60k). The ‘standby, stabilisation and transport’ service (included in the previous costs) amount to €80k and €50k respectively. I expected it to be much less.
That said, they still set aside €10K for long term storage of the head. I guess this means your head has a higher chance of being stored safety.
We’re increasing the prices to €75k for brain-only. 15k for long-term storage, 60k for SST, without good SST it’s not “cryopreservation”, its freezing people.
And “Cryonics is free” is really a bad title. Not just because it’s not true, but the organizations that offer it pro bono (paid by 3rd parties) should only be used by people who can’t otherwise afford it. Else, they will cease to exist soon due to limited funding. (disclaimer: I run tomorrow.bio)
Btw, Im happy to answer any question re cryopreservation if anybody is interested, just reach out.
You might want to know that I took a look through the site, and was curious, but I just closed the page the moment the “Calculate your contribution” form refused to show me the pricing options unless I gave it an email address.
Oregon Brain Preservation uses a technique allowing fridge temperature storage, and seem well funded, so idk if the argument works out
Idk the finances for Cryonics Germany, but I would indeed guess that Tomorrow Bio has more funding + provides better SST. I would recommend using Tomorrow Bio over Cryonics Germany if you can afford it
To add to bogdanb’s comment below, you might want to be careful because you seem to be ‘forcing’ people to subscribe to promotional newsletters in order to get a price quote which, aside from being quite a nasty thing to do, is also a blatant violation of European GDPR regulations for which you could receive a hefty fine
I mean, it’s not a big secret, there’s a wealthy person behind it. And there’s 2 potential motivations for it:
1) altruistic/mission-driven
2) helps improve the service to have more cases, which can benefit themselves as well.
But also, Oregon Brain Preservation is less expensive as a result of:
1) doing brain-only (Alcor doesn’t extract the brain for its neuro cases)
2) using chemical preservation which doesn’t require LN2 (this represents a significant portion of the cost)
3) not including the cost of stand-by, which is also a significant portion (ie. staying at your bedside in advance until you die)
4) collaborating with local funeral homes (instead of having a fully in-house team that can be deployed anywhere)
5) only offering the service locally (no flights)
I visited Oregon Brain Preservation, talked with Jordan Spark and exchanged emails, and been following them for many years, and Jordan seems really solid IMO.
Cryonics Germany people seem very caring and seem to understand well how to work with a thanatologist. I also had email exchanges with them, but not as much.
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Concerns about personal s-risks makes sense.
Who is the wealthy person?
I assumed this was an overstatement. A quick check shows I’m wrong: TomorrowBio offer whole body (€200k) or just brain preservation (€60k). The ‘standby, stabilisation and transport’ service (included in the previous costs) amount to €80k and €50k respectively. I expected it to be much less.
That said, they still set aside €10K for long term storage of the head. I guess this means your head has a higher chance of being stored safety.
We’re increasing the prices to €75k for brain-only. 15k for long-term storage, 60k for SST, without good SST it’s not “cryopreservation”, its freezing people.
And “Cryonics is free” is really a bad title. Not just because it’s not true, but the organizations that offer it pro bono (paid by 3rd parties) should only be used by people who can’t otherwise afford it. Else, they will cease to exist soon due to limited funding.
(disclaimer: I run tomorrow.bio)
Btw, Im happy to answer any question re cryopreservation if anybody is interested, just reach out.
You might want to know that I took a look through the site, and was curious, but I just closed the page the moment the “Calculate your contribution” form refused to show me the pricing options unless I gave it an email address.
Oregon Brain Preservation uses a technique allowing fridge temperature storage, and seem well funded, so idk if the argument works out
Idk the finances for Cryonics Germany, but I would indeed guess that Tomorrow Bio has more funding + provides better SST. I would recommend using Tomorrow Bio over Cryonics Germany if you can afford it
To add to bogdanb’s comment below, you might want to be careful because you seem to be ‘forcing’ people to subscribe to promotional newsletters in order to get a price quote which, aside from being quite a nasty thing to do, is also a blatant violation of European GDPR regulations for which you could receive a hefty fine