Mati_Roy
I wish there was an audio version ☺️
Steven Universe s1e24
Oh, based on your DM, they will still preserve and transport your brain to OregonCryo for indefinite storage for free if you can’t afford it. So I wouldn’t say they’re no longer active. But it’s still good info to know they aren’t doing the storage locally anymore. Thanks for sharing.
wow, nice, thanks for sharing 😅
Parable of the vanilla ice cream curse (and how it would prevent a car from starting!)
Oh wow! Damn ☹️ Well, I’m super grateful for the time it was active. If you don’t mind sending me a copy of your exchanges, I’d be interested.
seems likes this has now been automated ^^ https://pdftobrainrot.org/generate
I don’t feel strongly about this one way or another, but I think it’s reasonable to expend the term cryonics to mean any brain preservation method done with the hope for future revival as that seems like the core concept people are referring to when using the term. When the term was first coined, room temperature options weren’t a thing. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/PG4D4CSBHhijYDvSz/refactoring-cryonics-as-structural-brain-preservation
Steven Universe s1e5 is about a being that follows commands literally, and is a metaphor for some AI risks
I don’t know. The brain preservation prize to preserve the connective of a large mammal was won with aldehyde-stabilization though
Oregon Brain Preservation uses a technique allowing fridge temperature storage, and seem well funded, so idk if the argument works out
Idk the finances for Cryonics Germany, but I would indeed guess that Tomorrow Bio has more funding + provides better SST. I would recommend using Tomorrow Bio over Cryonics Germany if you can afford it
To be clear, it’s subsidized. So it’s not like there’s no money to maintain you in preservation. As far as I know, Oregon Brain Preservation has a trust similar to Alcor in terms of money per volume preserved for it’s cryonics patients. Which seems more than enough to maintain in storage just with the interests. Of course, there could be major economic disruptions that change that. I’m not sure about how much Cryonics Germany is putting aside though.
Plus, Oregon Brain Preservation’s approach seems to work at fridge temperature rather than requiring PB2 temperature.
What would a guarantee mean here? Like they give money to your heirs if they accidentally thaw you? I’m not sure what you’re asking.
Alternatives to that are paid versions of cryonics or otherwise burial and cremation.
fair enough! maybe i should edit my post with “brain preservation some through cryonics for indefinite storage with the purpose of future reanimation is sufficiently subsidized to be free or marginally free in some regions of the world” 😅
i don’t think killing yourself before entering the cryotank vs after is qualitatively different, but the latter maintains option value (in that specific regard re MUH) 🤷♂️
if you’re alive, you can kill yourself when s-risks increases beyond your comfort point. if you’re preserved, then you rely on other people to execute on those wishes
I mean, it’s not a big secret, there’s a wealthy person behind it. And there’s 2 potential motivations for it:
1) altruistic/mission-driven
2) helps improve the service to have more cases, which can benefit themselves as well.But also, Oregon Brain Preservation is less expensive as a result of:
1) doing brain-only (Alcor doesn’t extract the brain for its neuro cases)
2) using chemical preservation which doesn’t require LN2 (this represents a significant portion of the cost)
3) not including the cost of stand-by, which is also a significant portion (ie. staying at your bedside in advance until you die)
4) collaborating with local funeral homes (instead of having a fully in-house team that can be deployed anywhere)
5) only offering the service locally (no flights)I visited Oregon Brain Preservation, talked with Jordan Spark and exchanged emails, and been following them for many years, and Jordan seems really solid IMO.
Cryonics Germany people seem very caring and seem to understand well how to work with a thanatologist. I also had email exchanges with them, but not as much.
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Concerns about personal s-risks makes sense.
I mean, you can trust it to preserve your brain more than you can trust a crematorium to preserve your brain.
And if you do chemical preservation, the operational complexity of maintaining a brain in storage is fairly simple. LN2 isn’t that complex either, but does have higher risks.
That said, I would generally suggest using Tomorrow Biostasis for Europe residents if you can afford it.
note to self: listened up to 26m
i’d be interested in a story that goes deeper into how different U3 agents interact and what they’re wanting