Guilty. It doesn’t particularly apply in this case, since the argument is that randomness is the best available option for now, because intelligence doesn’t work yet for this case. I’m overidentifying with the general negative move I’ve made on pjeby, and as a result I’ve indulged myself in a couple of wrong responses, in a comment above and to an extent in a preceding one, although both also hold a fair amount of truth, but express it with dishonest connotation.
This comment was based on an argument with a person who explicitly insisted that tossing a coin is better than deciding for yourself.
This comment was based on an argument with a person who explicitly insisted that tossing a coin is better than deciding for yourself.
Kindly point to the specific words which you think meant that, so that I can see whether I need to be more clear, or whether you just rounded to a cliche.
Edit to add: Whoops, I just did the same thing to you. I see now that your comment was saying that you were rounding to a cached argument from a discussion with somebody else about tossing coins, not implying that that was what I said. Sorry for the confusion.
It doesn’t particularly apply in this case, since the argument is that randomness is the best available option for now, because intelligence doesn’t work yet for this case.
But pjeby isn’t even saying that – even reading completely random books, which AFAICT he doesn’t advocate, invokes a powerful optimization process (writers and publishers).
You always do the random thing relative to the options you are given. That doesn’t change the problem, as far as I can see, just applies it to a different situation
You can’t literally make only random actions. You can’t make random muscle movements. You may use random long-term goals, which can be analogized with being a fanatic, or middle-term goals, analogy with a crazy person, or random short-term goals, analogous to being clinically mad. In any case, whatever I could mean by random action, it’s necessarily already quite abstract, selected from few intelligent options.
Strawman?
Guilty. It doesn’t particularly apply in this case, since the argument is that randomness is the best available option for now, because intelligence doesn’t work yet for this case. I’m overidentifying with the general negative move I’ve made on pjeby, and as a result I’ve indulged myself in a couple of wrong responses, in a comment above and to an extent in a preceding one, although both also hold a fair amount of truth, but express it with dishonest connotation.
This comment was based on an argument with a person who explicitly insisted that tossing a coin is better than deciding for yourself.
Kindly point to the specific words which you think meant that, so that I can see whether I need to be more clear, or whether you just rounded to a cliche.
Edit to add: Whoops, I just did the same thing to you. I see now that your comment was saying that you were rounding to a cached argument from a discussion with somebody else about tossing coins, not implying that that was what I said. Sorry for the confusion.
But pjeby isn’t even saying that – even reading completely random books, which AFAICT he doesn’t advocate, invokes a powerful optimization process (writers and publishers).
You always do the random thing relative to the options you are given. That doesn’t change the problem, as far as I can see, just applies it to a different situation
Point taken; still, different from my very literal interpretation of letting a random number generator decide what you need.
You can’t literally make only random actions. You can’t make random muscle movements. You may use random long-term goals, which can be analogized with being a fanatic, or middle-term goals, analogy with a crazy person, or random short-term goals, analogous to being clinically mad. In any case, whatever I could mean by random action, it’s necessarily already quite abstract, selected from few intelligent options.