This comment is just to vent some frustration at how hard it is to get thinner, a.k.a. steering system 1. I was there, looking at the just finished, empty dish. The pasta was delicious, but I didn’t need a second serving. Yet, like in a horror B-movie, I watched myself from the inside as I got up and loaded a second serving.
Did you have an alternative to eat after the first serving? Like, some vegetables or fruit? Maybe a switch from pasta-2 to an apple would be easier than from pasta-2 to nothing.
Try a precommitment like “after eating pasta, I will eat an apple… and maybe a second serving of pasta afterwards, if I will still feel like it”.
(This requires buying a lot of apples in advance.)
Thanks for the suggestion. With apples I’m left hungrier than before, so I’ll try with vegetables. Strategically, the underlying principle would be: interrupt the behaviour with an equivalent one, motion for motion, but that ‘lands’ on a better alternative.
Actually, I’d recommend some sort of fat for satiety. Though this is an area where YMM really V so you probably should run some self-experiments and figure out whether carbs (and what kind of carbs) make you satiated or more hungry.
I already know that simple carbs make me hungrier, although it took me a long time to figure out. Fat doesn’t seem to have notable effects on satiety level, while complex carb do the trick. Of course, complex carbs are the trick. I should possibly have to experiment with other kinds of fats.
And I go through lots of apples if I’m still hungry (or I just have a not-hungry-but-want-to-eat mood going) after I’m done with dinner and it works for me in the same way people are describing below.
If you want to be serious, buy a food scale and measure all of your food and eat at a specific calorie target every day, the weight loss will be linear to your target weight and then maintain. This means you’ll have to keep it up forever. You can eat whatever you want as long as you hit the target. Processed food that has nutrition labels are also applicable to this method. In regards to not eat more, it depends where you eat. At home, you cook the amount you need, in processed restaurants with nutrition labels you order as much as you need.
Forget buffets and fancy restaurants. Unless if you maybe fast for 24 hours after or have a well-kept habit to keep this up. That means for example approximating how much you overate and subtract it from next days calories, you’ll learn as you train by measuring food.
Under the assumption that your daily energy expenditure is a constant proportional to your bodyweight, the resulting curve is similar to exponential decay, ~exp(-c*t).
Think radioactive material, except that instead of decaying all the way towards zero atoms, one’s weightloss would stop at a bodyweight consistent with an energy expenditure equal to the energy input from the diet.
Note that this is a pretty bold assumption with many caveats.
This comment is just to vent some frustration at how hard it is to get thinner, a.k.a. steering system 1.
I was there, looking at the just finished, empty dish. The pasta was delicious, but I didn’t need a second serving. Yet, like in a horror B-movie, I watched myself from the inside as I got up and loaded a second serving.
GAAAH!
Did you have an alternative to eat after the first serving? Like, some vegetables or fruit? Maybe a switch from pasta-2 to an apple would be easier than from pasta-2 to nothing.
Try a precommitment like “after eating pasta, I will eat an apple… and maybe a second serving of pasta afterwards, if I will still feel like it”.
(This requires buying a lot of apples in advance.)
Thanks for the suggestion. With apples I’m left hungrier than before, so I’ll try with vegetables.
Strategically, the underlying principle would be: interrupt the behaviour with an equivalent one, motion for motion, but that ‘lands’ on a better alternative.
Actually, I’d recommend some sort of fat for satiety. Though this is an area where YMM really V so you probably should run some self-experiments and figure out whether carbs (and what kind of carbs) make you satiated or more hungry.
I already know that simple carbs make me hungrier, although it took me a long time to figure out. Fat doesn’t seem to have notable effects on satiety level, while complex carb do the trick. Of course, complex carbs are the trick. I should possibly have to experiment with other kinds of fats.
Relevant.
And I go through lots of apples if I’m still hungry (or I just have a not-hungry-but-want-to-eat mood going) after I’m done with dinner and it works for me in the same way people are describing below.
If you want to be serious, buy a food scale and measure all of your food and eat at a specific calorie target every day, the weight loss will be linear to your target weight and then maintain. This means you’ll have to keep it up forever. You can eat whatever you want as long as you hit the target. Processed food that has nutrition labels are also applicable to this method. In regards to not eat more, it depends where you eat. At home, you cook the amount you need, in processed restaurants with nutrition labels you order as much as you need.
Forget buffets and fancy restaurants. Unless if you maybe fast for 24 hours after or have a well-kept habit to keep this up. That means for example approximating how much you overate and subtract it from next days calories, you’ll learn as you train by measuring food.
This is not true.
Yes, you are right. I’m sorry. The weight loss per day slows down over time. I wish I knew math so I could say what that curve is.
Under the assumption that your daily energy expenditure is a constant proportional to your bodyweight, the resulting curve is similar to exponential decay, ~exp(-c*t).
Think radioactive material, except that instead of decaying all the way towards zero atoms, one’s weightloss would stop at a bodyweight consistent with an energy expenditure equal to the energy input from the diet.
Note that this is a pretty bold assumption with many caveats.
Such method is for me unfeasible, it would mean basically retire from social life: I eat at home 3 times a week on average.