My intuitions are more continuous here. If AGI is close in 2027 I think that will mean increased revenue and continued investment
Gotcha, I disagree. Lemme zoom on this part of my reasoning, to explain why I think profitability matters (and growth matters less):
(1) Investors always only terminally value profit; they never terminally value growth. Most of the economy doesn’t focus much on growth compared to profitability, even instrumentally. However, one group of investors, VC’s, do: software companies generally have high fixed costs and low marginal costs, so sufficient growth will almost always make them profitable. But (a) VC’s have never invested anywhere even close to the sums we’re talking about, and (b) even if they had, OpenAI continuing to lose money will eventually make them skeptical.
(For normal companies: if they aren’t profitable, they run out of money and die. Any R&D spending needs to come out of their profits.)
(2) Another way of phrasing point 1: I very much doubt if OpenAI’s investors actually believe in AGI- Satya Nadella explicitly doesn’t, others seem to use it as an empty slogan. What they believe in is getting a return on their money. So I believe that OpenAI making profits would lead to investment, but that OpenAI nearing AGI without profits won’t trigger more investment.
(3) Even if VC’s were to continue investment, the absolute numbers are nearly impossible. OpenAI’s forecasted 2028 R&D budget is 183 billion; that exceeds the total global VC funding for enterprise software in 2024, which was 155 billion. This would be going to purchase a fraction of a company which would be tens of billions in debt, which had burned through 60 billion in equity already, and which had never turned a profit. (OpenAI needing to raise more money also probably means that xAI and Anthropic have run out of money, since they’ve raised less so far.)
In practice OpenAI won’t even be able to raise its current amount of money ever again: (a) it’s now piling on debt and burning through more equity, and is at a higher valuation; (b) recent OpenAI investor Masayoshi Son’s SoftBank is famously bad at evaluating business models (they invested in WeWork) and is uniquely high-spending- but is now essentially out of money to invest.
So my expectation is that OpenAI cannot raise exponentially more money without turning a profit, which it cannot do.
I want to clarify that I’m criticizing “AI 2027”’s projection of R&D spending, i.e. this table. If companies cut R&D spending, that falsifies the “AI 2027″ forecast.
In particular, the comment I’m replying to proposed that while the current money would run out in ~2027, companies could raise more to continue expanding R&D spending. Raising money for 2028 R&D would need to occur in 2027; and it would need to occur on the basis of financial statements of at least a quarter before the raise. So in this scenario, they need to slash R&D spending in 2027- something the “AI 2027” authors definitely don’t anticipate.
Furthermore, your claim that “they are losing money only if you include all the R&D” may be false. We lack sufficient breakdown of OpenAI’s budget to be certain. My estimate from the post was that most AI companies have 75% cost of revenue; OpenAI specifically has a 20% revenue sharing agreement with Microsoft; and the remaining 5% needs to cover General and Administrative expenses. Depending on the exact percentage of salary and G&A expenses caused by R&D, it’s plausible that OpenAI eliminating R&D entirely wouldn’t make it profitable today. And in the future OpenAI will also need to pay interest on tens of billions in debt.