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Si­mu­la­tion Hypothesis

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The Simulation Hypothesis proposes that conscious beings could be immersed within an artificial Universe embedded within a higher order of reality. The roots of this argument can be found throughout the history of philosophy in such works as Plato’s “Allegory of the Cave” and Descartes “evil demon”.

The important distinction between these and modern Simulation Arguments has been the addition of proposed methods of engineering Simulated Reality through the use of computers. The modern Simulation Argument makes the case that since a civilization will be able to simulate many more ancient civilizations than there were ancient civilizations, it is more likely that we are in a simulated universe than not. It shows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation.

John Barrow has suggested that if we are living in a computer simulation we may observe “glitches” in our programmed environment due to the level of detail being compromised to save computing power. Alternatively, the Simulators may not have a full understanding of the Laws of Nature which would mean over time the simulated environment would drift away from its stable state. These “glitches” could be identified by scientists scrutinizing nature using unusual methods of observation. However, Nick Bostrom argues that it is extremely likely that a civilization will have computational powers far surpassing the ones needed to simulate an ancient civilization in great detail. Moreover, one can argue that due to exponential grow, it’s extremely unlikely that the simulators are in the region of progress where they already can simulate an artificial reality but can’t simulate it with finer detail. They either can’t simulate at all, or have computational powers that far exceed the needed amount.

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Offer­ing ser­vice as a sen­sayer for simu­la­tion­ist-ad­ja­cent be­liefs.

mako yassMay 22, 2024, 6:52 PM
22 points
0 comments1 min readLW link

Shock Level 5: Big Wor­lds and Mo­dal Realism

RokoMay 25, 2010, 11:19 PM
39 points
158 comments4 min readLW link

That Alien Message

Eliezer YudkowskyMay 22, 2008, 5:55 AM
401 points
176 comments10 min readLW link

The math­e­mat­i­cal uni­verse: the map that is the territory

ataMar 26, 2010, 9:26 AM
97 points
124 comments11 min readLW link

[Question] Is the fact that we don’t ob­serve any ob­vi­ous glitch ev­i­dence that we’re not in a simu­la­tion?

Jim BuhlerApr 26, 2023, 2:57 PM
8 points
16 comments1 min readLW link

The AI in a box boxes you

Stuart_ArmstrongFeb 2, 2010, 10:10 AM
170 points
389 comments1 min readLW link

Si­mu­lated Elon Musk Lives in a Simulation

lsusrSep 18, 2021, 7:37 AM
66 points
13 comments3 min readLW link

Kol­mogorov Com­plex­ity and Si­mu­la­tion Hypothesis

False NameDec 14, 2022, 10:01 PM
−3 points
0 comments7 min readLW link

“How to Es­cape from the Si­mu­la­tion”—Seeds of Science call for reviewers

rogersbaconJan 26, 2023, 3:11 PM
12 points
0 comments1 min readLW link

Si­mu­la­tion­ist sym­pa­thetic magic

DataPacRatNov 13, 2012, 3:45 AM
21 points
20 comments1 min readLW link

Does the simu­la­tion ar­gu­ment even need simu­la­tions?

lmmOct 11, 2013, 9:16 PM
13 points
102 comments4 min readLW link

A Stranger Pri­or­ity? Topics at the Outer Reaches of Effec­tive Altru­ism (my dis­ser­ta­tion)

Joe CarlsmithFeb 21, 2023, 5:26 PM
38 points
16 comments1 min readLW link

The alien simu­la­tion meme doesn’t make sense

FTPickleFeb 24, 2023, 7:27 PM
4 points
1 comment1 min readLW link

How to Es­cape From the Si­mu­la­tion (Seeds of Science)

rogersbaconMar 15, 2023, 6:46 PM
1 point
1 comment1 min readLW link

LOVE in a sim­box is all you need

jacob_cannellSep 28, 2022, 6:25 PM
66 points
73 comments44 min readLW link1 review

The Si­mu­la­tion Hy­poth­e­sis Un­der­cuts the SIA/​Great Filter Dooms­day Argument

Oct 1, 2021, 10:23 PM
43 points
11 comments7 min readLW link

On the Im­pos­si­bil­ity of In­ter­ac­tion with Si­mu­lated Agents

WalkaboutJan 13, 2022, 5:50 PM
−3 points
8 comments3 min readLW link

Si­mu­la­tion arguments

Joe CarlsmithFeb 18, 2022, 10:45 AM
44 points
16 comments65 min readLW link

You can, in fact, bam­boo­zle an un­al­igned AI into spar­ing your life

David MatolcsiSep 29, 2024, 4:59 PM
105 points
173 comments27 min readLW link

Fore­cast­ing Through Fiction

YitzJul 6, 2022, 5:03 AM
5 points
2 comments8 min readLW link

[Question] Could the simu­la­tion ar­gu­ment also ap­ply to dreams?

Nathan1123Aug 17, 2022, 7:55 PM
6 points
4 comments3 min readLW link

[Link] Does a Si­mu­la­tion Really Need to Be Run?

VincentYuJun 22, 2011, 11:28 PM
28 points
17 comments1 min readLW link

Beyond Astro­nom­i­cal Waste

Wei DaiJun 7, 2018, 9:04 PM
139 points
41 comments3 min readLW link

What would con­vince you you’d won the lot­tery?

Stuart_ArmstrongOct 10, 2017, 1:45 PM
28 points
11 comments4 min readLW link

Static Place AI Makes Agen­tic AI Re­dun­dant: Mul­tiver­sal AI Align­ment & Ra­tional Utopia

ankFeb 13, 2025, 10:35 PM
1 point
2 comments11 min readLW link

Philo­soph­i­cal Cy­borg (Part 2)...or, The Good Successor

ukc10014Jun 21, 2023, 3:43 PM
21 points
1 comment31 min readLW link

How I Learned To Stop Wor­ry­ing And Love The Shoggoth

Peter MerelJul 12, 2023, 5:47 PM
9 points
15 comments5 min readLW link

A Strange Ar­gu­ment about the po­ten­tial Im­por­tance of Mul­ti­verse Theory

mako yassFeb 2, 2016, 4:22 AM
1 point
36 comments8 min readLW link

Ram­ble on STUFF: in­tel­li­gence, simu­la­tion, AI, doom, de­fault mode, the usual

Bill BenzonAug 26, 2023, 3:49 PM
5 points
0 comments4 min readLW link

Con­tain­ing the AI… In­side a Si­mu­lated Reality

HumaneAutomationOct 31, 2020, 4:16 PM
1 point
9 comments2 min readLW link

[Question] The Si­mu­la­tion Epiphany Problem

Koen.HoltmanOct 31, 2019, 10:12 PM
15 points
13 comments4 min readLW link

Si­mu­la­tion Ty­pol­ogy and Ter­mi­na­tion Risks

avturchinMay 18, 2019, 12:42 PM
12 points
0 comments1 min readLW link
(arxiv.org)

Si­mu­la­tions Map: what is the most prob­a­ble type of the simu­la­tion in which we live?

turchinOct 11, 2015, 5:10 AM
10 points
47 comments7 min readLW link

On Falsify­ing the Si­mu­la­tion Hy­poth­e­sis (or Em­brac­ing its Pre­dic­tions)

lorepieriApr 12, 2021, 12:12 AM
8 points
17 comments5 min readLW link

Si­mu­la­tion the­ol­ogy: prac­ti­cal as­pect.

Valentin2026May 5, 2021, 2:20 AM
11 points
6 comments3 min readLW link

The Anti-Carter Basilisk

Jon GilbertMay 26, 2021, 10:56 PM
0 points
0 comments2 min readLW link

[Question] Re­v­erse en­g­ineer­ing of the simulation

Jan BetleyFeb 7, 2022, 9:36 PM
1 point
2 comments1 min readLW link

[Question] What do you think will most prob­a­bly hap­pen to our con­scious­ness when our simu­la­tion ends?

ArtMiApr 12, 2022, 8:23 AM
1 point
5 comments1 min readLW link

Ne­go­ti­at­ing Up and Down the Si­mu­la­tion Hier­ar­chy: Why We Might Sur­vive the Unal­igned Singularity

David UdellMay 4, 2022, 4:21 AM
26 points
14 comments2 min readLW link

[simu­la­tion] 4chan user claiming to be the at­tor­ney hired by Google’s sen­tient chat­bot LaMDA shares wild de­tails of encounter

janusNov 10, 2022, 9:39 PM
19 points
1 comment13 min readLW link
(generative.ink)

Theod­icy and the simu­la­tion hy­poth­e­sis, or: The prob­lem of simu­la­tor evil

philosophybearDec 26, 2022, 6:55 PM
12 points
12 comments19 min readLW link
(philosophybear.substack.com)

A Differ­ent Kind of Ark: My failed at­tempt to build a bridge be­tween universes

ChrisMFeb 10, 2023, 8:49 PM
2 points
2 comments6 min readLW link
(www.vesselproject.io)

Are you in a Boltz­mann simu­la­tion?

Stuart_ArmstrongSep 13, 2018, 12:56 PM
23 points
29 comments3 min readLW link

Ar­tifi­cial Static Place In­tel­li­gence: Guaran­teed Alignment

ankFeb 15, 2025, 11:08 AM
2 points
2 comments2 min readLW link

Lack of Spi­der-Man is ev­i­dence against the simu­la­tion hypothesis

RamblinDashJan 6, 2024, 6:17 PM
7 points
22 comments1 min readLW link

Places of Lov­ing Grace [Story]

ankFeb 18, 2025, 11:49 PM
−1 points
0 comments4 min readLW link

In­tel­li­gence–Agency Equiv­alence ≈ Mass–En­ergy Equiv­alence: On Static Na­ture of In­tel­li­gence & Phys­i­cal­iza­tion of Ethics

ankFeb 22, 2025, 12:12 AM
1 point
0 comments6 min readLW link

Keep­ing it (less than) real: Against ℶ₂ pos­si­ble peo­ple or worlds

quiet_NaNSep 13, 2024, 5:29 PM
17 points
3 comments9 min readLW link

Unal­igned AGI & Brief His­tory of Inequality

ankFeb 22, 2025, 4:26 PM
−20 points
4 comments7 min readLW link

Karpenchuk’s hy­poth­e­sis: Ex­plor­ing Hu­man Life as a Con­scious­ness-Devel­op­ing Simulation

Karpenchuk Bohdan Aug 2, 2024, 7:28 PM
1 point
0 comments2 min readLW link

The Trinity Ar­chi­tect Hy­poth­e­sis (A fu­sion of The Trinity Para­dox & The Ar­chi­tect’s Cy­cle)

kaninwithriceFeb 24, 2025, 4:40 AM
1 point
0 comments2 min readLW link

Com­pu­ta­tional ir­re­ducibil­ity challenges the simu­la­tion hypothesis

Clément LAug 11, 2024, 4:14 PM
3 points
15 comments7 min readLW link

Align­ment by de­fault: the simu­la­tion hypothesis

gbSep 25, 2024, 4:26 PM
21 points
39 comments1 min readLW link

[Question] Are rogue AI agents among us?

SkeletonOct 23, 2024, 1:10 AM
1 point
0 comments1 min readLW link

Repli­ca­tors, Gods and Bud­dhist Cosmology

KristianRonnJan 16, 2025, 10:51 AM
10 points
3 comments26 min readLW link

[Question] What’s Wrong With the Si­mu­la­tion Ar­gu­ment?

AynonymousPrsn123Jan 18, 2025, 2:32 AM
6 points
49 comments1 min readLW link

A suffi­ciently para­noid non-Friendly AGI might self-mod­ify it­self to be­come Friendly

RomanSSep 22, 2021, 6:29 AM
5 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

Recon­cep­tu­al­iz­ing the Noth­ing­ness and Existence

HtarlovJan 28, 2025, 8:29 PM
8 points
1 comment2 min readLW link

Does Time Lin­ear­ity Shape Hu­man Self-Directed Evolu­tion, and will AGI/​ASI Tran­scend or Desta­bil­ise Real­ity?

EmmelyFeb 5, 2025, 7:58 AM
1 point
0 comments3 min readLW link
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