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Shut Up and Multiply

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Due to scope neglect, framing effects, and other cognitive biases, the result of an expected utility calculation executed correctly may produce an answer different from first intuition, making it “intuitively unappealing”. If you can tell that it’s probably the intuitions that went wrong and not the calculation, the skill shut up and multiply is the ability to accept that, yes, sometimes the expected utility math is correct and we need to deal with that. Contrast do the math, then go with your gut. If you’re not sure which of these applies, use “do the math, then go with your gut” until you’ve built up more experience.

The specific application of Shut Up and Multiply to the Torture versus Dust Specks case has proven quite contentious. One reason this case was cited as an exemplar of where “shut up and multiply” should apply was a claim that the usual reasoning behind answering “SPECKS” can be reduced to circular preferences.

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Op­ti­miz­ing Fuzzies And Utilons: The Altru­ism Chip Jar

orthonormalJan 1, 2011, 6:53 PM
139 points
49 comments3 min readLW link

One Life Against the World

Eliezer YudkowskyMay 18, 2007, 10:06 PM
125 points
84 comments3 min readLW link

Pur­chase Fuzzies and Utilons Separately

Eliezer YudkowskyApr 1, 2009, 9:51 AM
223 points
88 comments4 min readLW link

Shut Up and Divide?

Wei DaiFeb 9, 2010, 8:09 PM
114 points
276 comments1 min readLW link

Cir­cu­lar Altruism

Eliezer YudkowskyJan 22, 2008, 6:00 PM
87 points
310 comments4 min readLW link

Tor­ture vs. Dust Specks

Eliezer YudkowskyOct 30, 2007, 2:50 AM
84 points
630 comments1 min readLW link

Op­ti­mal Philan­thropy for Hu­man Beings

lukeprogJul 25, 2011, 7:27 AM
49 points
86 comments7 min readLW link

Cir­cu­lar Altru­ism vs. Per­sonal Preference

Vladimir_NesovOct 26, 2009, 1:43 AM
15 points
14 comments2 min readLW link

Mo­ral­ity is not about willpower

PhilGoetzOct 8, 2011, 1:33 AM
20 points
146 comments13 min readLW link

Money: The Unit of Caring

Eliezer YudkowskyMar 31, 2009, 12:35 PM
218 points
132 comments4 min readLW link

How much should we value life?

Adam ZernerSep 6, 2021, 10:30 PM
30 points
25 comments38 min readLW link

Knigh­tian Uncer­tainty and Am­bi­guity Aver­sion: Motivation

So8resJul 21, 2014, 8:32 PM
48 points
44 comments13 min readLW link

Allais Malaise

Eliezer YudkowskyJan 21, 2008, 12:40 AM
41 points
38 comments2 min readLW link

Cry­on­ics prices were more com­pli­cated when I dou­ble-clicked

tcelferactAug 23, 2021, 1:26 AM
11 points
2 comments2 min readLW link

[SEQ RERUN] One Life Against the World

Tyrrell_McAllisterJun 12, 2011, 1:38 AM
10 points
17 comments1 min readLW link

Beauty quips, “I’d shut up and mul­ti­ply!”

neq1May 7, 2010, 2:34 PM
18 points
358 comments6 min readLW link

Put Your­self in Man­ual Mode (aka Shut Up and Mul­ti­ply)

lukeprogMar 27, 2011, 6:13 AM
11 points
25 comments1 min readLW link

Per­sonal story about benefits of Ra­tion­al­ity Dojo and shut­ting up and multiplying

Gleb_TsipurskyAug 26, 2015, 4:38 PM
12 points
26 comments1 min readLW link

Does util­i­tar­i­anism “re­quire” ex­treme self sac­ri­fice? If not why do peo­ple com­monly say it does?

Princess_StargirlDec 9, 2014, 8:32 AM
12 points
100 comments1 min readLW link

The “In­tu­itions” Be­hind “Utili­tar­i­anism”

Eliezer YudkowskyJan 28, 2008, 4:29 PM
84 points
205 comments9 min readLW link

[SEQ RERUN] The “In­tu­itions” Be­hind “Utili­tar­i­anism”

MinibearRexDec 31, 2011, 6:09 AM
6 points
0 comments1 min readLW link

[SEQ RERUN] Pur­chase Fuzzies and Utilons Separately

MinibearRexApr 8, 2013, 5:01 AM
7 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

Tor­ture Si­mu­lated with Flipbooks

AmanojackMay 26, 2011, 1:00 AM
9 points
33 comments1 min readLW link

Tor­ture vs. Shampoo

ChrisHallquistSep 23, 2013, 4:34 AM
18 points
43 comments1 min readLW link

[Question] Is driv­ing worth the risk?

Adam ZernerMay 11, 2021, 5:04 AM
28 points
29 comments7 min readLW link

An­ti­dotes to Num­ber Numbness

CollisteruAug 30, 2021, 8:17 PM
12 points
3 comments3 min readLW link

Ex­er­cise Trade Offs

ElizabethAug 31, 2021, 2:40 AM
32 points
4 comments3 min readLW link
(acesounderglass.com)

Abun­dance and scarcity; work­ing for­wards and work­ing backwards

QuinnFeb 18, 2022, 7:05 PM
28 points
4 comments8 min readLW link

Obe­sity Epi­demic Ex­plained in 0.9 Sub­way Cookies

tinyanonAug 12, 2021, 3:45 PM
8 points
22 comments1 min readLW link

Short, Ex­treme, For­got­ten Tor­ture vs Death

burritoFeb 7, 2021, 9:31 AM
2 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

How Less­wrong helped me make $25K: A ra­tio­nal pric­ing strategy

kareemabukhadraDec 21, 2020, 8:20 PM
50 points
21 comments3 min readLW link

Re­vis­it­ing tor­ture vs. dust specks

cousin_itJul 8, 2009, 11:04 AM
10 points
66 comments2 min readLW link

How I saved 1 hu­man life (in ex­pec­ta­tion) with­out over­think­ing it

Christopher KingDec 22, 2024, 8:53 PM
19 points
0 comments4 min readLW link
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