Part of the acting in good faith is indeed assuming that your partner is also acting in good faith. You literally have faith in them in this regard. Unless of course, they gave you substantial reasons to think that they are not upfolding their part of the bargain. Good faith is supposed to be the initial assumption. And then you can be updated by the evidence.
I think the logic of prisonners dilemma clearly shows why “assuming good faith” and “acting in good faith” can’t be properly separated from each other. If you do not not assume that the other person will cooperate you do not have any reason to cooperate in return. If you are not actually thinking that cooperation is possible and yet you still try to cooperate, you are just behaving irrationally.
Part of the acting in good faith is indeed assuming that your partner is also acting in good faith.
Not if you define the terms the way the OP defined them. If you see acting in good faith as being focused on learning what’s true, falsely assuming that your partner is acting in good faith is a hindrance.
Part of the acting in good faith is indeed assuming that your partner is also acting in good faith.
That’s not even slightly what the terms “good faith” / “bad faith” mean. Zack explains very clearly what’s being referred to, and you’re ignoring that in favor of your own idiosyncratic definition. That’s not a disagreement—it’s a mistake on your part.
Dictionary editors are not the Legislators of Language. Zach notices that common usage doesn’t exactly fit the dictionary. Then he notice that dictionary meaning probably doesn’t carve reality by its joints. If there is a mistake her it’s on the part of the dictionaries for not capturing the way humans use the words and the way the reality is jointed. Then he goes on how if we accept the dictionary definition at face value being touchy about bad faith accusation doesn’t make any sense, we should assume bad faith and that acting in bad faith is normal. Either that or we should abandon the terms all together as meaningless.
I explain the way the words are actually being used, with the connection between acting in good faith, expecting good faith and demanding good faith grounded in the logic of prisoners dilemma. This common usage doesn’t have all the disadvantages that Zach mentioned. It seem to carve reality properly. So we should just use the better definition instead of abondoning the terms.
It seems like you’re conflating acting in good faith with assuming that other people are acting in good faith.
You’re saying that we should act in good faith. Zack is saying we shouldn’t assume that other people are acting in good faith.
Is there actually a disagreement?
Part of the acting in good faith is indeed assuming that your partner is also acting in good faith. You literally have faith in them in this regard. Unless of course, they gave you substantial reasons to think that they are not upfolding their part of the bargain. Good faith is supposed to be the initial assumption. And then you can be updated by the evidence.
I think the logic of prisonners dilemma clearly shows why “assuming good faith” and “acting in good faith” can’t be properly separated from each other. If you do not not assume that the other person will cooperate you do not have any reason to cooperate in return. If you are not actually thinking that cooperation is possible and yet you still try to cooperate, you are just behaving irrationally.
Not if you define the terms the way the OP defined them. If you see acting in good faith as being focused on learning what’s true, falsely assuming that your partner is acting in good faith is a hindrance.
That’s not even slightly what the terms “good faith” / “bad faith” mean. Zack explains very clearly what’s being referred to, and you’re ignoring that in favor of your own idiosyncratic definition. That’s not a disagreement—it’s a mistake on your part.
Dictionary editors are not the Legislators of Language. Zach notices that common usage doesn’t exactly fit the dictionary. Then he notice that dictionary meaning probably doesn’t carve reality by its joints.
If there is a mistake her it’s on the part of the dictionaries for not capturing the way humans use the words and the way the reality is jointed. Then he goes on how if we accept the dictionary definition at face value being touchy about bad faith accusation doesn’t make any sense, we should assume bad faith and that acting in bad faith is normal. Either that or we should abandon the terms all together as meaningless.
I explain the way the words are actually being used, with the connection between acting in good faith, expecting good faith and demanding good faith grounded in the logic of prisoners dilemma. This common usage doesn’t have all the disadvantages that Zach mentioned. It seem to carve reality properly. So we should just use the better definition instead of abondoning the terms.