Several people have noted that Joe Rogan is drawing a distinction between vaccines, where the burden of proof of safety is being put on the vaccines, and on various other things like Ivermectin, where he largely puts the burden on others to show they are not safe, and holds them to a very different standard.
This seems defensible if you’re trying to mandate the former and forbid the latter.
Discussion in question was about whether to get vaccinated rather than whether to mandate vaccination.
Also, we effectively totally mandate treatments all the time, the force of ‘doctor insists you do this’ in many spots is ‘I’ll physically do it without asking permission’ and in many others it’s ‘we will refuse you any other care until you do this.’ In ways I find pretty terrible, mind you, but worth noting this.
This seems defensible if you’re trying to mandate the former and forbid the latter.
Discussion in question was about whether to get vaccinated rather than whether to mandate vaccination.
Also, we effectively totally mandate treatments all the time, the force of ‘doctor insists you do this’ in many spots is ‘I’ll physically do it without asking permission’ and in many others it’s ‘we will refuse you any other care until you do this.’ In ways I find pretty terrible, mind you, but worth noting this.