Note that answers here, on their own, will give a one-sided view of the side-effect situation which may mislead everyone’s Systems 1. I am not suggesting that everyone who had no significant side-effects comment to say so because (1) in practice that won’t happen, so answers will still be greatly biased but it may be less obvious that they are and (2) if it did it would mean way the hell too many comments :-). I will remark, since I’m commenting anyway, that I had two vaccine doses (AstraZeneca) with no significant side effects. (I felt grotty for a day or two after the first dose. I noticed no side effects at all after the second.)
Note that answers here, on their own, will give a one-sided view of the side-effect situation which may mislead everyone’s Systems 1.
If you believe that we should expect a certain number of side-effect reports even if there’s no issue with the vaccine (and reacting it would mislead System 1), how reports of significant side-effects do you think we should expect?
If you believe that we should expect a certain number of side-effect reports even if there’s no issue with the vaccine (and reacting it would mislead System 1), how reports of significant side-effects do you think we should expect?
Are you asking for effects that show up after 3 days (and then don’t go away), or anything bad that happens sometime within a couple of months after getting vaccinated?
If it’s the latter, then among1,000 people you might expect that a few people will have weird health issues show up without an obvious cause. I’d be surprised and pretty concerned if someone died in that interval (for non-obviously traceable causes), but if it was just a handful of issues of the severity of “developing a kind of serious new allergy” or “developing heart rhythm issues,” that could be entirely what’s expected (though I haven’t studied the frequencies).
With miscarriages, for instance, apparently “1 in 8 pregnancies end in miscarriage” – so out of a large enough pool, you have to expect that someone had a miscarriage in the last couple of months, etc.
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My father, mom and brother had no significant side effects after two doses of either Pfizer or Moderna. I’m only 3 days after my first dose of Pfizer; no side effects so far.
My father’s a GP and seemed happy that I’m getting vaccinated – though he did say that it’s possible for young people to have “kind of scary 2 days,” side-effect-wise.
(Also have friends in the community who didn’t have issues from 1st doses, but was focusing on people outside.)
Update: My girlfriend felt unusually tired (and maybe some brain fog) for 5-7 days after the 1st dose of Moderna; the effect went away after that period.
Are you asking for effects that show up after 3 days (and then don’t go away), or anything bad that happens sometime within a couple of months after getting vaccinated?
Deciding what’s a vaccine side effect and what’s not is up to the person who answers and the target audience is rationalists who I expect to make reasonable decisions.
I had two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. I experienced a sore arm that went away after ~1 day after the first dose and moderate aches and chills that went away after ~12 hours after the second dose.
I know around 10 people in my age group (20-35 years old) that have gotten one of the MRNA vaccines and none of them had a significantly more severe reaction than I did.
Note that answers here, on their own, will give a one-sided view of the side-effect situation which may mislead everyone’s Systems 1. I am not suggesting that everyone who had no significant side-effects comment to say so because (1) in practice that won’t happen, so answers will still be greatly biased but it may be less obvious that they are and (2) if it did it would mean way the hell too many comments :-). I will remark, since I’m commenting anyway, that I had two vaccine doses (AstraZeneca) with no significant side effects. (I felt grotty for a day or two after the first dose. I noticed no side effects at all after the second.)
If you believe that we should expect a certain number of side-effect reports even if there’s no issue with the vaccine (and reacting it would mislead System 1), how reports of significant side-effects do you think we should expect?
Are you asking for effects that show up after 3 days (and then don’t go away), or anything bad that happens sometime within a couple of months after getting vaccinated?
If it’s the latter, then among1,000 people you might expect that a few people will have weird health issues show up without an obvious cause. I’d be surprised and pretty concerned if someone died in that interval (for non-obviously traceable causes), but if it was just a handful of issues of the severity of “developing a kind of serious new allergy” or “developing heart rhythm issues,” that could be entirely what’s expected (though I haven’t studied the frequencies).
With miscarriages, for instance, apparently “1 in 8 pregnancies end in miscarriage” – so out of a large enough pool, you have to expect that someone had a miscarriage in the last couple of months, etc.
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My father, mom and brother had no significant side effects after two doses of either Pfizer or Moderna. I’m only 3 days after my first dose of Pfizer; no side effects so far.
My father’s a GP and seemed happy that I’m getting vaccinated – though he did say that it’s possible for young people to have “kind of scary 2 days,” side-effect-wise.
(Also have friends in the community who didn’t have issues from 1st doses, but was focusing on people outside.)
Update: My girlfriend felt unusually tired (and maybe some brain fog) for 5-7 days after the 1st dose of Moderna; the effect went away after that period.
Deciding what’s a vaccine side effect and what’s not is up to the person who answers and the target audience is rationalists who I expect to make reasonable decisions.
Two Moderna doses here with no significant side effects
I had two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. I experienced a sore arm that went away after ~1 day after the first dose and moderate aches and chills that went away after ~12 hours after the second dose.
I know around 10 people in my age group (20-35 years old) that have gotten one of the MRNA vaccines and none of them had a significantly more severe reaction than I did.
One Pfizer with no side-effects.