If you believe that we should expect a certain number of side-effect reports even if there’s no issue with the vaccine (and reacting it would mislead System 1), how reports of significant side-effects do you think we should expect?
Are you asking for effects that show up after 3 days (and then don’t go away), or anything bad that happens sometime within a couple of months after getting vaccinated?
If it’s the latter, then among1,000 people you might expect that a few people will have weird health issues show up without an obvious cause. I’d be surprised and pretty concerned if someone died in that interval (for non-obviously traceable causes), but if it was just a handful of issues of the severity of “developing a kind of serious new allergy” or “developing heart rhythm issues,” that could be entirely what’s expected (though I haven’t studied the frequencies).
With miscarriages, for instance, apparently “1 in 8 pregnancies end in miscarriage” – so out of a large enough pool, you have to expect that someone had a miscarriage in the last couple of months, etc.
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My father, mom and brother had no significant side effects after two doses of either Pfizer or Moderna. I’m only 3 days after my first dose of Pfizer; no side effects so far.
My father’s a GP and seemed happy that I’m getting vaccinated – though he did say that it’s possible for young people to have “kind of scary 2 days,” side-effect-wise.
(Also have friends in the community who didn’t have issues from 1st doses, but was focusing on people outside.)
Update: My girlfriend felt unusually tired (and maybe some brain fog) for 5-7 days after the 1st dose of Moderna; the effect went away after that period.
Are you asking for effects that show up after 3 days (and then don’t go away), or anything bad that happens sometime within a couple of months after getting vaccinated?
Deciding what’s a vaccine side effect and what’s not is up to the person who answers and the target audience is rationalists who I expect to make reasonable decisions.
Are you asking for effects that show up after 3 days (and then don’t go away), or anything bad that happens sometime within a couple of months after getting vaccinated?
If it’s the latter, then among1,000 people you might expect that a few people will have weird health issues show up without an obvious cause. I’d be surprised and pretty concerned if someone died in that interval (for non-obviously traceable causes), but if it was just a handful of issues of the severity of “developing a kind of serious new allergy” or “developing heart rhythm issues,” that could be entirely what’s expected (though I haven’t studied the frequencies).
With miscarriages, for instance, apparently “1 in 8 pregnancies end in miscarriage” – so out of a large enough pool, you have to expect that someone had a miscarriage in the last couple of months, etc.
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My father, mom and brother had no significant side effects after two doses of either Pfizer or Moderna. I’m only 3 days after my first dose of Pfizer; no side effects so far.
My father’s a GP and seemed happy that I’m getting vaccinated – though he did say that it’s possible for young people to have “kind of scary 2 days,” side-effect-wise.
(Also have friends in the community who didn’t have issues from 1st doses, but was focusing on people outside.)
Update: My girlfriend felt unusually tired (and maybe some brain fog) for 5-7 days after the 1st dose of Moderna; the effect went away after that period.
Deciding what’s a vaccine side effect and what’s not is up to the person who answers and the target audience is rationalists who I expect to make reasonable decisions.