If you asked me if souls are real or if God is real, I’d say yes to both, but the explanation thereof would be excruciatingly difficult, and I’d be tempted to label the question ‘not even wrong’,
Being narrow with your own conceptual framework is good, but I’m promoting being liberal when it comes to interpreting others’ concepts, when playing fast and loose in back-and-forth discourse, and when reasoning very abstractly in order to see connections. As long as you make sure to go back and make sure that everything connects precisely, and avoid affective death spirals around seemingly big insights about the fundamental nature of all things (which is somewhat difficult), it can be useful for getting new perspectives and for communicating concepts effectively.
ETA: With regards to communication, this only really works if each of the participants has some amount of faith in the epistemology of their conversation partner. If some random guy told me God exists, and I wanted to make him smarter, I wouldn’t go on about all the ways that God exists; I’d go on about the ways He doesn’t.
If some random guy told me God exists, and I wanted to make him smarter, I wouldn’t go on about all the ways that God exists; I’d go on about the ways He doesn’t.
When possible this is best, but some people at SIAI (cough Vassar cough) have conversational styles that are very fast so as to convey the most information in the shortest time, and it’s hard to do real-time transformations from ultra-abstract statements to reasonably-precise internal models and back as information is exchanged and people build up their ontologies on the fly. (Which is pretty awesome when it happens—one of the joys of being a Visiting Fellow. And of talking to Michael Vassar.)
I’d more or less agree with this, but would add that it’s important to flag the difference between asserting the existence of X, making decisions based on the existence of X, and supposing the existence of X. If I start using language in a way that elides those differences, I am doing nobody any favors, least of all myself.
What about the virtue of narrowness?
Being narrow with your own conceptual framework is good, but I’m promoting being liberal when it comes to interpreting others’ concepts, when playing fast and loose in back-and-forth discourse, and when reasoning very abstractly in order to see connections. As long as you make sure to go back and make sure that everything connects precisely, and avoid affective death spirals around seemingly big insights about the fundamental nature of all things (which is somewhat difficult), it can be useful for getting new perspectives and for communicating concepts effectively.
ETA: With regards to communication, this only really works if each of the participants has some amount of faith in the epistemology of their conversation partner. If some random guy told me God exists, and I wanted to make him smarter, I wouldn’t go on about all the ways that God exists; I’d go on about the ways He doesn’t.
Or just teach him the Virtue of Narrowness.
True, that’s a better solution. But, but, but being contrarian is so much more fun!
You should only be liberal in what you accept, if you can transform it so that when you repeat it, you can still be conservative in what you say.
When possible this is best, but some people at SIAI (cough Vassar cough) have conversational styles that are very fast so as to convey the most information in the shortest time, and it’s hard to do real-time transformations from ultra-abstract statements to reasonably-precise internal models and back as information is exchanged and people build up their ontologies on the fly. (Which is pretty awesome when it happens—one of the joys of being a Visiting Fellow. And of talking to Michael Vassar.)
I’d more or less agree with this, but would add that it’s important to flag the difference between asserting the existence of X, making decisions based on the existence of X, and supposing the existence of X. If I start using language in a way that elides those differences, I am doing nobody any favors, least of all myself.