Don’t be glad. If you need reinforcement, be relieved. Gladness tends to cause unreflective happy death spirals. Shame on you for being glad.
Presumably the emotion you actually felt was relief, and “glad” was merely used as an inaccurate/misleading synonym? In which case, shame on you for using inaccurate/misleading synonyms.
(I’m totally at least a quarter serious, maybe half.)
I don’t want you to not have unreflective happy death spirals, I’m just horrified at the potential consequences of not going out of my way to prevent you from having unreflective happy death spirals. Shame on you for imprecision and/or implicitly accusing me of hypocrisy.
I don’t mean to accuse you of hypocrisy, just that your actions may have consequences you didn’t intend. But it is nice of you to try to deny your caring once you learned it is reinforcing behavior you consider destructive.
I don’t deny my caring, it’s just that caring isn’t necessarily a positive motivation. I do care. The way I care is by coercing myself into paralyzing fear, so as to bootstrap that paralyzing fear beyond myself and into others, others who might be able to use that fear to help me avert all possible circumstances of desperate, trapped, thrashing justified self-recrimination and socially-mediated abandonment to terrifying consequences causally isomorphic to retaliation against abject, utter historical indefensibility. You should feel guilty for not having already considered that there are many ways for a person to care.
Ok, I don’t want you to have paralyzing fear over this. I am not in any real danger of happy death spirals around positive reinforcement, I was just having fun with recursion and exaggerating the topic under discussion, and I expect this is true of the other participants in this thread. If you notice us going overboard in a similar manner elsewhere, I will take your concerns seriously.
Good post! Thank you for writing it Luke =)
Thanks for reinforcing Luke! And it’s great that you applied the theory so quickly!
Yay recursive reinforcement!
Why, thanks! It’s helpful to hear you say that!
I think I’m going to be ill if this continues.
Moar recursion! Keep it up! :D
No. Unreflective happy death spirals get people killed. Shame on all of you for being bad people.
I’m glad you mentioned this.
Don’t be glad. If you need reinforcement, be relieved. Gladness tends to cause unreflective happy death spirals. Shame on you for being glad.
Presumably the emotion you actually felt was relief, and “glad” was merely used as an inaccurate/misleading synonym? In which case, shame on you for using inaccurate/misleading synonyms.
(I’m totally at least a quarter serious, maybe half.)
Thank you for wanting us to not have unreflective happy death spirals. I will have to repeat the behavior that caused you to express such caring.
I guess now it’s the right time to say big thanks to everyone who didn’t contribute to this thread!
You’re welcome.
I don’t want you to not have unreflective happy death spirals, I’m just horrified at the potential consequences of not going out of my way to prevent you from having unreflective happy death spirals. Shame on you for imprecision and/or implicitly accusing me of hypocrisy.
I don’t mean to accuse you of hypocrisy, just that your actions may have consequences you didn’t intend. But it is nice of you to try to deny your caring once you learned it is reinforcing behavior you consider destructive.
I don’t deny my caring, it’s just that caring isn’t necessarily a positive motivation. I do care. The way I care is by coercing myself into paralyzing fear, so as to bootstrap that paralyzing fear beyond myself and into others, others who might be able to use that fear to help me avert all possible circumstances of desperate, trapped, thrashing justified self-recrimination and socially-mediated abandonment to terrifying consequences causally isomorphic to retaliation against abject, utter historical indefensibility. You should feel guilty for not having already considered that there are many ways for a person to care.
Ok, I don’t want you to have paralyzing fear over this. I am not in any real danger of happy death spirals around positive reinforcement, I was just having fun with recursion and exaggerating the topic under discussion, and I expect this is true of the other participants in this thread. If you notice us going overboard in a similar manner elsewhere, I will take your concerns seriously.
I see what you did there!
(I didn’t until EY pointed that out.)
Good on you for admitting error.
“god this is even more phygish than just that quote about eliezer getting fed mnms”
That strikes me as goofy, not phygish.
I agree, so much that I think I might be missing something.
what’s “phygish”?
rot13 it
Source.