Paris is an island in France, they are completely different from the rest of the country. We know it, they know it (and they want us to know it) and we don’t like each others that much. Several of the experiences you talk about are typical parisian bullshit that would almost never happen elsewhere. About the “fancy” experience you describe, I’d say it’s far from the majority and most restaurants would on the contrary be “à la bonne franquette” especially outside of Paris.
Really when you said this, I was thinking about 90% of my food experience in France, especially at home (but I’ll come back to this later):
“What I love most about American food, and eating in America in general, is that it is the opposite of the French mistake of trying to impress you or waste your time. American food wants you to be happy, it wants to give you the experience you want and not hold back, it values your time and it does not much care how it looks doing it.”
To come back to regional specialties, when you look for them you can have everything in Paris . I have to admit that. It may not be the easiest thing, especially for a stranger, but if you go outside of the touristic places you will find them and good food is worth searching for. I know there is a lot to visit in Paris and that may not be the priority but I feel like that’s one of the reasons why strangers never actually eat typical french food.
There is no “french food” per se, the style of food completely changes from region to region and I feel like this is really what most people miss about it. Sure is easy to know about italian food, it’s pizza, pasta and ice cream. French food is not that way, for better or for worse.
In my (limited, but still a few months) experience, americans rarely (if ever) eat home cooked food. For americans to eat at home, there is either a sports event that forces you to stay home or twice a year you will have people coming and make food. I have known couples who had four plates and that’s it. All of this shocked me a bit and I honestly did not like it very much. Maybe it’s bad luck but the sheer quantity of fast food (and extremely fat food in it) makes me doubt it. Did you try McDonald’s in France? I could not believe how healthy it was actually compared to the american ones. (easiest comparison but it’s the same in other fast foods)
We love our restaurants but cooking at home is a huge part of our food culture. If it takes the whole day to cook for friends and family, well it takes the whole day. The quality of the food we can buy in markets is way better than what I found in the US (the EU rules are much stricter) and many French become good cooks since they spend so much time in the kitchen so food at home is really really good.
In my (limited, but still a few months) experience, americans rarely (if ever) eat home cooked food.
This varies enormously. In my circle cooking is very common (I grew up eating almost all home cooking and my wife did too (though this wasn’t part of our selection criteria), we cook ~every night now, many of my kids friends families do too) but I also know a lot of households who don’t cook at all.
In my (limited, but still a few months) experience, americans rarely (if ever) eat home cooked food. For americans to eat at home, there is either a sports event that forces you to stay home or twice a year you will have people coming and make food. I have known couples who had four plates and that’s it. All of this shocked me a bit and I honestly did not like it very much. Maybe it’s bad luck but the sheer quantity of fast food (and extremely fat food in it) makes me doubt it
It’s not bad luck, this is fairly common. I’ve discussed it with a number of people from many places. My own take is that the disaster of the 1950s made home cooking terrible, and caused us to lose most of the cooking knowledge our grandparents and great-grandparents had. Recovering it means a new generations has to learn on their own as adults instead of learning from their parents growing up, so most people never do. I grew up in a family in the food industry in NY and always loved to cook, so I feel like an outsider looking at much of my own country’s food culture.
I live in the south so I won’t be able to but my main advices would be to avoid eating near touristic places where very average stuff will be sold at a premium (Eiffel Tower, arc de triomphe for instance) and to go for places that look nice but not too fancy, especially if you want something closer to a “comfort food” feeling. Fancy places can have extremely good food but like Zvi said it, the ambiance can be mediocre and/or impersonal. Maybe ask parisians about the places where they would bring their friends for a good dinner? (and that you would like to try french specialties in some of them :) )
Salads and pasta salads on the “healthy” side. There are a lot of vegetables in the burgers, almost no option with only meat in it.
But it’s not so much that than the differences in portion sizes and calories. There are legal limits to added sugar, salt or fat and to how much calories you can put in a meal. It’s way lower than what you can find in the US.
Unlimited sodas are forbidden in France(Europe maybe ?) + they have way less sugar than in the US (+they are even cut a bit more in fast foods)
There must be a few other stuff but out of my head they are the main ones.
Despite that we still have obesity (~23% which is kind of average today but still bad)
Unlimited sodas are forbidden in France(Europe maybe ?)
They are legal (but rare) in Slovakia. I think IKEA has them at the restaurants they have in their shops.
they have way less sugar than in the US
I think this is more general than people realize. The food you buy under the same name and trademark in different countries is likely to be different, to comply with the local laws… or exploit their absence.
(I tried to google a half-forgotten example, but it is completely buried under tons of PR articles about how Coca Cola deeply cares about the purity of water in their products in India.)
Exactly, the quality rules in the EU sometimes feel too strict but a few weeks in the US and I saw the difference. The compounding effect of food on your health is huge.
French here.
Paris is an island in France, they are completely different from the rest of the country. We know it, they know it (and they want us to know it) and we don’t like each others that much. Several of the experiences you talk about are typical parisian bullshit that would almost never happen elsewhere. About the “fancy” experience you describe, I’d say it’s far from the majority and most restaurants would on the contrary be “à la bonne franquette” especially outside of Paris.
Really when you said this, I was thinking about 90% of my food experience in France, especially at home (but I’ll come back to this later):
“What I love most about American food, and eating in America in general, is that it is the opposite of the French mistake of trying to impress you or waste your time. American food wants you to be happy, it wants to give you the experience you want and not hold back, it values your time and it does not much care how it looks doing it.”
To come back to regional specialties, when you look for them you can have everything in Paris . I have to admit that. It may not be the easiest thing, especially for a stranger, but if you go outside of the touristic places you will find them and good food is worth searching for. I know there is a lot to visit in Paris and that may not be the priority but I feel like that’s one of the reasons why strangers never actually eat typical french food.
There is no “french food” per se, the style of food completely changes from region to region and I feel like this is really what most people miss about it. Sure is easy to know about italian food, it’s pizza, pasta and ice cream. French food is not that way, for better or for worse.
In my (limited, but still a few months) experience, americans rarely (if ever) eat home cooked food. For americans to eat at home, there is either a sports event that forces you to stay home or twice a year you will have people coming and make food. I have known couples who had four plates and that’s it. All of this shocked me a bit and I honestly did not like it very much. Maybe it’s bad luck but the sheer quantity of fast food (and extremely fat food in it) makes me doubt it. Did you try McDonald’s in France? I could not believe how healthy it was actually compared to the american ones. (easiest comparison but it’s the same in other fast foods)
We love our restaurants but cooking at home is a huge part of our food culture. If it takes the whole day to cook for friends and family, well it takes the whole day. The quality of the food we can buy in markets is way better than what I found in the US (the EU rules are much stricter) and many French become good cooks since they spend so much time in the kitchen so food at home is really really good.
This varies enormously. In my circle cooking is very common (I grew up eating almost all home cooking and my wife did too (though this wasn’t part of our selection criteria), we cook ~every night now, many of my kids friends families do too) but I also know a lot of households who don’t cook at all.
Seconding this characterization.
It’s not bad luck, this is fairly common. I’ve discussed it with a number of people from many places. My own take is that the disaster of the 1950s made home cooking terrible, and caused us to lose most of the cooking knowledge our grandparents and great-grandparents had. Recovering it means a new generations has to learn on their own as adults instead of learning from their parents growing up, so most people never do. I grew up in a family in the food industry in NY and always loved to cook, so I feel like an outsider looking at much of my own country’s food culture.
I’m going to Paris soon. Are there any specific places/parts of Paris you recommend visiting?
I live in the south so I won’t be able to but my main advices would be to avoid eating near touristic places where very average stuff will be sold at a premium (Eiffel Tower, arc de triomphe for instance) and to go for places that look nice but not too fancy, especially if you want something closer to a “comfort food” feeling. Fancy places can have extremely good food but like Zvi said it, the ambiance can be mediocre and/or impersonal. Maybe ask parisians about the places where they would bring their friends for a good dinner? (and that you would like to try french specialties in some of them :) )
What does McDonald’s sell in France?
Salads and pasta salads on the “healthy” side. There are a lot of vegetables in the burgers, almost no option with only meat in it.
But it’s not so much that than the differences in portion sizes and calories. There are legal limits to added sugar, salt or fat and to how much calories you can put in a meal. It’s way lower than what you can find in the US.
Unlimited sodas are forbidden in France(Europe maybe ?) + they have way less sugar than in the US (+they are even cut a bit more in fast foods) There must be a few other stuff but out of my head they are the main ones.
Despite that we still have obesity (~23% which is kind of average today but still bad)
They are legal (but rare) in Slovakia. I think IKEA has them at the restaurants they have in their shops.
I think this is more general than people realize. The food you buy under the same name and trademark in different countries is likely to be different, to comply with the local laws… or exploit their absence.
(I tried to google a half-forgotten example, but it is completely buried under tons of PR articles about how Coca Cola deeply cares about the purity of water in their products in India.)
Exactly, the quality rules in the EU sometimes feel too strict but a few weeks in the US and I saw the difference. The compounding effect of food on your health is huge.