I don’t have all the evidence about it loaded into my head right now, but I can go dig it up later. What I recall is that while there was a life extension benefit for sedentary, high bodyfat lab animals, there was no benefit recorded for wild caught, normal bodyfat animals.
I also personally know people who did CR and regretted it because their hormone levels are now out of whack.
I think CR is a bad idea compared to intermittent fasting …
I also think that IF would be easier to maintain than a permanent reduced caloric intake. From what I have read IF does not decrease metabolism that much and energy levels are pretty much the same.
Thank you for your response. When you refer to “CR,” do you mean calorie restriction which is mild, moderate, severe, or something else?
Under my personal approach to calorie restriction, I eat an average of about 3000 calories per day. So it’s hard to imagine my hormones getting too out-of-whack.
I will check out the concept of intermittent fasting.
I’m unsure as to parameters the people I spoke with were using. Something in the realm of 1200-1500 calories a day for 5′11″ish people who are lean.
Well that’s a big problem. As I alluded to in the main post, the phrase “calorie restriction” is ambiguous. So when you argue that “calorie restriction” is a bad idea, your point remains somewhat unclear.
I don’t have their numbers offhand but one of them got regular blood panels and reported testosterone crashed and didn’t recover after they went back to a normal diet (and exercise), also several hormones relating to hunger were screwy and they confirmed they can easily eat 5k calories now and not want to stop. Other did not have blood panels but reported similar symptoms.
People might be a bit too quick to associate whatever health problems they have to whatever intervention they were running at the moment they got them.
Suddenly being able to eat far more than one could earlier right after getting off a diet that explicitly restricts calories seems like a fairly safe causal conclusion.
I think CR is a bad idea compared to intermittent fasting after reviewing the available studies and expert opinion on those studies. Here’s one cautionary editorial: http://healthland.time.com/2012/08/29/want-to-live-longer-dont-try-caloric-restriction/
I don’t have all the evidence about it loaded into my head right now, but I can go dig it up later. What I recall is that while there was a life extension benefit for sedentary, high bodyfat lab animals, there was no benefit recorded for wild caught, normal bodyfat animals.
I also personally know people who did CR and regretted it because their hormone levels are now out of whack.
I also think that IF would be easier to maintain than a permanent reduced caloric intake. From what I have read IF does not decrease metabolism that much and energy levels are pretty much the same.
Yes for me but only after a transition period.
Yeah, which means you can exercise without wanting to die.
Thank you for your response. When you refer to “CR,” do you mean calorie restriction which is mild, moderate, severe, or something else?
Under my personal approach to calorie restriction, I eat an average of about 3000 calories per day. So it’s hard to imagine my hormones getting too out-of-whack.
I will check out the concept of intermittent fasting.
I’m unsure as to parameters the people I spoke with were using. Something in the realm of 1200-1500 calories a day for 5′11″ish people who are lean.
3k calories is bulking for me and I’m fairly active, so I’m confused.
Well that’s a big problem. As I alluded to in the main post, the phrase “calorie restriction” is ambiguous. So when you argue that “calorie restriction” is a bad idea, your point remains somewhat unclear.
In what way were their hormone levels affected? I can’t even begin to guess.
I don’t have their numbers offhand but one of them got regular blood panels and reported testosterone crashed and didn’t recover after they went back to a normal diet (and exercise), also several hormones relating to hunger were screwy and they confirmed they can easily eat 5k calories now and not want to stop. Other did not have blood panels but reported similar symptoms.
People might be a bit too quick to associate whatever health problems they have to whatever intervention they were running at the moment they got them.
Suddenly being able to eat far more than one could earlier right after getting off a diet that explicitly restricts calories seems like a fairly safe causal conclusion.
He has been off of it for over a year.