I think that it is possible a situation where meta-values are stable, but lower level values are changing. Meta-values are values about the ways how my values should change. For example, I prefer that they will not change against my will by some secret method of hypnosis. But I also prefer that they will change according their natural evolution, as I don’t want to stuck in some repetitive behaviour.
These “meta-values” you mention are just values applied to appraisal of values. So in these terms it’s possible to have values about meta-values and to value change in meta-values. Value drift becomes instrumentally undesirable with greater power over the things you value, and this argument against value drift is not particularly sensitive to your values (or “meta-values”). Even if you prefer for your values to change according to their “natural evolution”, it’s still useful for them not to change. For change in values to be a good decision, you need to see value drift as more terminally valuable than its opportunity cost (decrease in value of the future according to your present values, in the event that your present values undergo value drift).
What would you want your values to do if you lived two thousand+ years? And did you have a firm answer to that question before I asked it? Would most people?
I prefer that I would still have meta-meta value to be alive. If it holds and works, I can enjoy the play of all possible values and their combinations on lower levels. I have been thinking before about it, may be not in the exact the same wording.
Most people never think in this way, but their preference may be learned from experiments—for example, it is well known how much would people pay for preserving their life for 1 year.
It was estimated based on meta-analysis of 42 studies, that humans are ready to pay between $100K-400K for QALY, that is only for one year (Hirth, Chernew, Miller, Fendrick, & Weissert, 2000), while the median household income at the time of the study was only $37,000 in inflation non-adjusted dollars (US Census Bureau, 1997).
I think that it is possible a situation where meta-values are stable, but lower level values are changing. Meta-values are values about the ways how my values should change. For example, I prefer that they will not change against my will by some secret method of hypnosis. But I also prefer that they will change according their natural evolution, as I don’t want to stuck in some repetitive behaviour.
These “meta-values” you mention are just values applied to appraisal of values. So in these terms it’s possible to have values about meta-values and to value change in meta-values. Value drift becomes instrumentally undesirable with greater power over the things you value, and this argument against value drift is not particularly sensitive to your values (or “meta-values”). Even if you prefer for your values to change according to their “natural evolution”, it’s still useful for them not to change. For change in values to be a good decision, you need to see value drift as more terminally valuable than its opportunity cost (decrease in value of the future according to your present values, in the event that your present values undergo value drift).
Yep. But I note that many people seem to value letting their values drift somewhat, so that needs to be taken into account.
What would you want your values to do if you lived two thousand+ years? And did you have a firm answer to that question before I asked it? Would most people?
I prefer that I would still have meta-meta value to be alive. If it holds and works, I can enjoy the play of all possible values and their combinations on lower levels. I have been thinking before about it, may be not in the exact the same wording.
Most people never think in this way, but their preference may be learned from experiments—for example, it is well known how much would people pay for preserving their life for 1 year.
It was estimated based on meta-analysis of 42 studies, that humans are ready to pay between $100K-400K for QALY, that is only for one year (Hirth, Chernew, Miller, Fendrick, & Weissert, 2000), while the median household income at the time of the study was only $37,000 in inflation non-adjusted dollars (US Census Bureau, 1997).