Indeed it is not an argument. Yet I can still say, “So what?” I am not going to worry about something that has no effect on my happiness. If there is some way it would have an effect, then I’d care about it.
The fact that you are amoral does not mean there is anything wrong with morality, and
is not an argument against it. You might as well be saying “there is a perfectly good rational argument that the world is round, but I prefer to be irrational”.
The difference is, believing “The world is round” affects whether I win or not, whereas believing “I’m morally in the wrong” does not.
That doesn’t constitute an argument unless you can explain why your winning
is the only thing that should matter.
Yeah, I said it’s not an argument. Yet again I can only ask, “So what?” (And this doesn’t make me amoral in the sense of not having moral sentiments. If you tell me me it is wrong to kill a dog for no reason, I will agree because I will interpret that as, “We both would be disgusted at the prospect of killing a dog for no reason.” But you seem to be saying there is something more.)
That doesn’t constitute an argument unless you can explain why your winning is the only thing that should matter.
The wordings “affect my winning” and “matter” mean the same thing to me. I take “The world is round” seriously because it matters for my actions. I do not see how “I’m morally in the wrong”* matters for my actions. (Nor how “I’m pan-galactically in the wrong” matters. )
*EDIT: in the sense that you seem to be using it (quite possibly because I don’t know what that sense even is!).
Yeah, I said it’s not an argument. Yet again I can only ask, “So what?”
So being wrong and not caring you are in the wrong is not the same as being right.
(And this doesn’t make me amoral in the sense of not having moral sentiments. If you tell me me it is wrong to kill a dog for no reason, I will agree because I will interpret that as, “We both would be disgusted at the prospect of killing a dog for no reason.” But you seem to be saying there is something more.)
Yes. I am saying that moral sentiments can be wrong, and that that can be realised through reason, and that getting morality right matters more than anything.
The wordings “affect my winning” and “matter” mean the same thing to me.
But they don’t mean the same thing. Morality matters more than anything else by definition. You don’t prove anything by adopting an idiosyncratic private language.
I take “The world is round” seriously because it matters for my actions. I do not see how “I’m morally in the wrong”* matters for my actions. (Nor how “I’m pan-galactically in the wrong” matters. )
The question is whether mattering for your actions is morally justifiable.
So being wrong and not caring you are in the wrong is not the same as being right.
Yet I still don’t care, and by your own admission I suffer not in the slightest from my lack of caring.
I am saying that moral sentiments can be wrong, and that that can be realised through reason, and that getting morality right matters more than anything.
Zorg says that getting pangalacticism right matters more than anything. He cannot tell us why it matters, but boy it really does matter.
Morality matters more than anything else by definition.
Which would be? If you refer me to the dictionary again, I think we’re done here.
The fact that you are amoral does not mean there is anything wrong with morality, and is not an argument against it. You might as well be saying “there is a perfectly good rational argument that the world is round, but I prefer to be irrational”.
That doesn’t constitute an argument unless you can explain why your winning is the only thing that should matter.
Yeah, I said it’s not an argument. Yet again I can only ask, “So what?” (And this doesn’t make me amoral in the sense of not having moral sentiments. If you tell me me it is wrong to kill a dog for no reason, I will agree because I will interpret that as, “We both would be disgusted at the prospect of killing a dog for no reason.” But you seem to be saying there is something more.)
The wordings “affect my winning” and “matter” mean the same thing to me. I take “The world is round” seriously because it matters for my actions. I do not see how “I’m morally in the wrong”* matters for my actions. (Nor how “I’m pan-galactically in the wrong” matters. )
*EDIT: in the sense that you seem to be using it (quite possibly because I don’t know what that sense even is!).
So being wrong and not caring you are in the wrong is not the same as being right.
Yes. I am saying that moral sentiments can be wrong, and that that can be realised through reason, and that getting morality right matters more than anything.
But they don’t mean the same thing. Morality matters more than anything else by definition. You don’t prove anything by adopting an idiosyncratic private language.
The question is whether mattering for your actions is morally justifiable.
Yet I still don’t care, and by your own admission I suffer not in the slightest from my lack of caring.
Zorg says that getting pangalacticism right matters more than anything. He cannot tell us why it matters, but boy it really does matter.
Which would be? If you refer me to the dictionary again, I think we’re done here.