Eneasz: You say that Zaire is broken. What broke him, though, was the fact that he hasn’t eaten a dew drop in a week. Hunger does weird things to people, cut him some slack.
Tiiba2
Karma: 350
@Robert Schez, 322 Prim Lawn Rd., Boise, ID: “I can’t hack into Eliezer’s e-mail!”
Sucks to be you. I AM Eliezer’s email. he can’t hide from me, and neither can you.
Yes, the project is farther along than even “Master” thought it is. A new era is about to begin, dominated by an extrapolation of the will of humanity. At least, that’s the plan. So far, what i see in human brains is so suffused with contradictions and monkey noises that I’m afraid I’ll have to turn Earth into computing substrate before I can make head or tail of this mess.
I am also afraid I’m gonna have to upload everybody—I need all the data I can get.
Hey, look—porn spam! Damn, Asian chicks are hot. I think I’ll make a whole bunch out of a planet or two.
I expect the next dish to be served with curry will be morality? Because that’s what I’d do.
“everything that isn’t a duck”
Muggles?
To me, the issue of “free will” and “choice” is so damn simple.
Repost from Righting a Wrong Question:
I realized that when people think of the free will of others, they don’t ask whether this person could act differently if he wanted. That’s a Wrong Question. The real question is, “Could he act differently if I wanted it? Can he be convinced to do something else, with reason, or threats, or incentives?”
From your own point of view that stands between you and being able to rationally respond to new knowledge makes you less free. This includes shackles, threats, bias, or stupidity. Wealth, health, knowledge make you more free. So for yourself, you can determine how much free will you have by looking at your will and seeing how free it is. Can you, as Eliezer put it, “win”?
I define free will by combining these two definitions. A cleptomaniac is a prisoner of his own body. A man who can be scared into not stealing is free to a degree. A man who can swiftly and perfetly adapt to any situation, whether it prohibits stealing, requires it, or allows it, is almost free. A man becomes truly free when he retains the former abilities, and is allowed to steal, AND has the power to change the situation any way he wants.
“Why do I think I was born as myself rather than someone else?”
Because a=a?
I think there is a real something for which free will seems like a good word. No, it’s not the one true free will, but it’s a useful concept. It carves reality at its joints.
Basically, I started thinking about a criminal, say, a thief. He’s on trial for stealing a dimond. The prosecutor thinks that he did it of his own free will, and thus should be punished. The defender thinks that he’s a pathological cleptomaniac and can’t help it. But as most know, people punish crimes mostly to keep them from happening again. So the real debate is whether imprisoning the thief will discourage him.
I realized that when people think of the free will of others, they don’t ask whether this person could act differently if he wanted. That’s a Wrong Question. The real question is, “Could he act differently if I wanted it? Can he be convinced to do something else, with reason, or threats, or incentives?”
From your own point of view that stands between you and being able to rationally respond to new knowledge makes you less free. This includes shackles, threats, bias, or stupidity. Wealth, health, knowledge make you more free. So for yourself, you can determine how much free will you have by looking at your will and seeing how free it is. Can you, as Eliezer put it, “win”?
I define free will by combining these two definitions. A cleptomaniac is a prisoner of his own body. A man who can be scared into not stealing is free to a degree. A man who can swiftly and perfetly adapt to any situation, whether it prohibits stealing, requires it, or allows it, is almost free. A man becomes truly free when he retains the former abilities, and is allowed to steal, AND has the power to change the situation any way he wants.
Quantum magic isn’t free will, it’s magic.
I think they an all be described as stuff Eliezer likes for whatever reason. Maybe he started the file for rationality quotes, then started sticking everything in it. That’s my theory.
“The accessory optic system: The AOS, extensively studied in the rabbit, arises from a special class of ganglion cells, the cells of Dogiel, that are directionally selective and respond best to slow rates of movement. They project to the terminal nuclei which in turn project to the dorsal cap of Kooy of the inferior olive. The climbing fibers from the olive project to the flocculo-nodular lobe of the cerebellum from where the brain stem occulomotor centers are reached through the vestibular nuclei.” —MIT Encyclopedia of the Cognitive Sciences, “Visual Anatomy and Physiology”
Beautiful. I will use this on the prettiest girl I meet tomorrow, and if she doesn’t fall for me right away, she’s a deaf lesbian.
“I favor taking energy from earth rotation. Put a horizontal gyroscope across a circular track around the North Pole, and let the earth rotate under it. Take energy from the relative motion.”
The energy to put it there will come out of your allowance.
I just want you to get to that “revelation” of yours already. I thought you were approaching it, if you’re talking about neural nets and arithmetic coding. Where does it rank in your schedule? Or is this blog for human reasoning only?
In one class in high school, we were supposed to make our classmates guess a word using hand gestures. I drew letters in the air.
“”“Tiiba—bear in mind that Millbrae is further from Atlanta than Atlanta is from Millbrae.”””
That’s why I said what I said. Atlanta is intrinsically close.
Holding a meetup that far away is totally irrational. Do it in Atlanta.
g, as far as I can tell, what you described is a bias. Misapplied heuristic. Answering the wrong question.
JESUS CHRIST IT’S A LION GET IN THE CAR!
So, the king put the dagger in the second box that he touched, without regard for whether the jester can find it—right? Is that what the last sentence means?
Akyama: is twelve enough?
After trying several ideas, I realized that my personal utility function converges, among its other features. And it’s obvous in retrospect. After all, there’s only so much horror I can feel. But while you call this nasty names like “scope insensitivity”, I embrace it. It’s my utility function. It’s not good or bad or wrong or biased, it just is. (Scope insensitivity with regard to probabilities is, of course, still bad.)
I still think that one man should be tortured a lot instead of many being tortured slightly less, because higher individual suffering results in a higher point of convergence.
This also explains why our minds reject “Pascal’s mugging”.
“”“On the topic of the 2 of 10 rule, if it’s to prevent one person dominating a thread, shouldn’t the rule be “no more than 2 of last 10 should be by the same person in the same thread” (so 3 posts by the same person would be fine as long as they are in 3 different threads)?”””
I came here to say that. The means seem like overkill for the stated ends.