If a person doesn’t have health insurance, then is now the time to sign up for temporary health insurance to avoid getting slammed in case you have to go to the emergency room in the future?
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Hey group house Berkeley people, what procedures are you guys setting up?
The one potential downside of copper is that it may have reduced efficacy when cleaned multiple times using normal cleaning products.
In a study where copper surfaces were inoculated with bacteria in 1% solutions of albumin, dried, and subsequently cleaned with 70% ethanol or 1% sodium hypochlorite, there was a build-up of residues and a concomitant decrease in killing efficiency (1). On the other hand, it was reported that copper surfaces remained active when soiled (42). Also, it was found that there was no reduction in killing efficiency over 30 cycles of bacterial inoculation, followed by cleaning with a 1% nonionic detergent solution (M. Solioz and C. Molteni, unpublished observations).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-nXiUm-WdhapbqngHkM8tXOovuIZuPoW/view?usp=drivesdk
The rate of change being exponential is an extremely important point. The original rate of spread in Wuhan was a doubling every 2 days. If we set another area follows the same rate, then the difference between 32 cases and 4096 cases is just waiting 2 weeks.
I added this to the google doc.
Depends on what kind of bleach it is, but many chemicals commonly called bleaches are very strong. Hydrogen Peroxide is broad-spectrum and very effective.
An accurate count of how many people are infected may be a highest priority. Since the virus has exponential growth, the difference between a known count of 10 infected vs 100 infected is massive in terms of policy decisions. Undercounting is extremely dangerous to the entire population.
This could change once the number of infected patients gets very high, but we may not have seen numbers high enough to justify that anywhere outside of China yet.
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext#sec3.1 lists a lot of different disinfectants.
3-4 is decent. 4+ is good.
Do you have any disinfectants at all?
A downside of using copper may be that exposing it to disinfectants could lead to a decrease in its efficacy. Ethanol is listed specifically.
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3067274/#r1
The claimed exception to this is “a 1% nonionic detergent solution”.
A strong preventative measure I haven’t been hearing people talk about in general is constant cleaning of commonly touched surfaces. In workplaces and homes, this may be more valuable than encouraging people to wash their hands very often.
The Coronavirus can persist on steel, metal, wood, and plastic for up to 4 days according to the link below. Cleaning surfaces several times per day with an appropriate cleaning agent would therefore be highly valuable to implement.
There’s not much point in constantly washing your hands if your office/home’s front doorknob is spreading the virus to every person who touches it for 4 days in a row.
The SARS-CoVStrain P9 and HCOV listings in the link below are (I think) the best examples to look at. Best cleaning agents are those with 4+ “Reduction of viral infectivity (log10)” on the 2nd table.
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext#sec3.1
There are some articles today about people trying out a drug called remdesivir
What would be the appropriate dose of Vitamin D?
The large effects on children is an odd example (poor example?) to point at since children have been reported to have the least harm from COVID-19.
The document referring to copper that I found via SSC was https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3067274/ .
The time of contact killing listed among the different microbes ranges from 1 minute to over a week. I don’t know which example of a microbe would be closest to copper.
One big problem that may exist with using copper that I came across is that copper may reduce in efficacy if it is frequently cleaned, whereas stainless steel is fine to repeatedly clean. Source
The cleaner suggested to be used on copper surfaces without reducing its efficacy by this paper .
″ A few months later he told me he’d converted. Last I heard they had moved to Utah. ”
This seems more easily explainable as a Crony Belief. The new belief was very valuable and useful to him, therefore it was adopted as true.
Its value as an epistemic belief plummeted as its value as a crony belief soared since the existence or non-existence of god doesn’t have value to people’s everyday lives (in the way that an armed robber or cancer diagnosis does).
Val, do you know of any lists of good mythic mode roles that a person could inhabit?
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I’ve often strongly desired an alternative version of TVTropes which could be called RealityTropes. Much of what you’re referring to above would be on that webpage.
Within the mythic mode framework, the hero’s journey is a known living story and role. It exists in both mythic mode and fiction, but not all roles that exist in fiction actually exist in mythic mode and not all that exist in mythic mode exist in fiction. (Or easily accessible fiction.) Much or maybe even most of TVTropes.com wouldn’t exist on RealityTropes.com
History books, honest documentaries, mythology, and religious texts would give more access to mythic mode roles and RealityTropes information.
I still want a better and drastically more complete list though. And I especially want a proper real list of the life paths and patterns of reality that exist which people can be living inside of or end up living in the future. Good and bad.
Requiem for a Dream is a cautionary tale of the dark and horrifying path that taking drugs can lead someone down. It’s fiction and obviously embellished, but the truth that can be found in it seems extremely valuable for someone who might consider that lifestyle. How many possible real-life failure-modes like that really exist? It would be really nice to get a list of them to look at and double check every once in a while instead of having to become a better and better rationalist just to fight back against the tide.
Also, 1 sock lost is automatically 1 pair of socks lost since they can only function in pairs. Although only odd numbers of identical socks lost result in a pair of socks being lost.
Socks can also get lost by having a pair of identical socks not be identified when they are both stored in Lost Socks storage space.
Malice can also be a factor. My brother was afraid that there was an evil clown that lived under his bed and stole his socks. He is a lousy person so my sister would occasionally steal a sock from him.
This would only follow if the UFOs spotted today were 30 years more advanced than the UFOs spotted 30 years ago. Also, the UFOs spotted 30 years ago should be the equivalent of modern tech-ish.
Do you think this is likely more effective to implement on Saturdays or Sundays?
Should the accused not at least have the right to make one reply in its defense?!?
My favorite was this reply. I had to sit down for a minute to imagine how screwed up a person must be to have an internal conversation like that one.
Have you read the report and is it worth $10 ?