My opinion? I’d not lie. You’ve noticed the attempt, why claim you didn’t? Display your true reaction.
mendel
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And yet, not to feel an emotion in the first place may obscure you to yourself—it’s a two-sided coin. To opt to not know what you’re feeling when I struggle to find out seems strange to me.
The problem with the downvote is that it mixes the messages “I don’t agree” with “I don’t think others should see this”. There is no way to say “I don’t agree, but that post was worth thinking about”, is there? Short of posting a comment of your own, that is.
Eliezer, you state in the intro that the 5-second-level is a “method of teaching rationality skills”. I think it is something different.
First, the analysis phase is breaking down behaviour patterns into something conscious; this can apply to my own patterns as I figure out what I need to (or want to) teach, or to other people’s patterns that I wish to emulate and instill into myself.
It breaks down “rationality” into small chunks of “behaviour” which can then be taught using some sort of conditioning—you’re a bit unclear on how “teaching exercises” for this should be arrived at.
You suggest a form of self-teaching: The 5-second analysis identifies situations when I want some desired behaviour to trigger, and to pre-think my reaction to the point where it doesn’t take me more than 5 seconds to use. In effect, I am installing a memory of thoughts that I wish to have in a future situation. (I could understand this as communcating with “future me” if I like science fiction. ;) Your method of limiting this to the “5-second-level” aims to make this pre-thinking specific enough so that it actually works. With practice, this response will trigger subconsciously, and I’ll have modified my behaviour.
It would be nice if that would actually help to talk about rationality more clearly (but won’t we be too specific and miss the big picture?), and it would be nice if that would help us arrive at a “rationality syllabus” and a way to teach it. I’m looking forward to reports of using this technique in an educational setting; what the experience of you and your students were in trying to implement this. Until your theory’s tested in that kind of setting, it’s no more than a theory, and I’m disinclined to believe your “you need to” from the first sentence in your article.
Is rationality just a behaviour, or is it more? Can we become (more) rational by changing our behaviour, and then have that changed behaviour change our mind?
Assuming the person who asks the question wants to learn something and not hold a socratic argument, what they need is context. They need context to anchor the new information (there’s a word “red”, in this case) to what they already know. You can give this context in the abstract and specific (the “one step up, one step down” method that jimrandomh descibes above achieves this), but it doesn’t really matter. The more different ways you can find, the better the other person will understand, and the richer a concept they will take away from your conversation. (I’m obviously bad at doing this.)
An example is language learning: a toddler doesn’t learn language by getting words explained, they learn language by hearing sounds used in certain contexts and recalling the association where appropriate.
I suspect that the habit of answering questions badly is being taught in school, where an answer is often not meant to transfer knowledge, but to display it. If asked “What is a car?”, answering that is has wheels and an engine will get you a better grade than to state that your mom drives a Ford, even though talking about your experience with your mom’s car would have helped a car-less friend to better understand what it means to have one.
So what we need to learn (and what good teachers have learned) is to take questions and, in a subconscious reaction, translate them to a realisation what the asking person needs to know: what knowledge they are missing that made them ask the question, and to provide it. And that depends on context as well: the question “what is red” could be properly answered by explaining when the DHS used to issue red alerts (they don’t color code any more), it could be explaining the relation of a traffic light to traffic, it could be explaining what red means in Lüscher’s color psychology or in Chinese chromotherapy. If I see a person nicknamed Red enter at the far side of the room wearing a red sweater, and I shudder and remark “I don’t like red”, then someone asks me “what do you mean, red” I ought to simply say that I meant the color—any talk of stop signs or fire engines would be very strange. To be specific, I would answer “that sweater”.
To wrap this overlong post up, I don’t think there’s an innate superiority of the specific over the abstract. What I’ll employ depends on what the person I’m explaining stuff to already understands. A 5-second “exercise” designed to emphasise the specific over the abstract can help me overcome a mental bias of not considering specifics in my explanations (possibly instilled by the education system). It widens the pool that I can draw my answers from, and that makes me a potentially better answerer.
Well, it seems I misunderstand your statement, “It is possible to not control anger but instead never even feel it in the first place, without effort or willpower.”
I know it is possible to experience anger, but control it and not act angry—there is a difference between having the feeling and acting on it. I know it is also possible to not feel anger, or to only feel anger later, when distanced from the situation. I’m ok with being aware of the feeling and not acting on it, but to get to the point where you don’t feel it is where I’m starting to doubt whether it’s really a net benefit.
And yes, I do understand that with understand / assumptions about other people, stuff that would have otherwise bothered me (or someone else) is no longer a source of anger. You changed your outlook and understanding of that type of situation so that your emotion is frustration and not anger. If that’s what you meant originally, I understand now.