Eliezer, you state in the intro that the 5-second-level is a “method of teaching rationality skills”. I think it is something different.
First, the analysis phase is breaking down behaviour patterns into something conscious; this can apply to my own patterns as I figure out what I need to (or want to) teach, or to other people’s patterns that I wish to emulate and instill into myself.
It breaks down “rationality” into small chunks of “behaviour” which can then be taught using some sort of conditioning—you’re a bit unclear on how “teaching exercises” for this should be arrived at.
You suggest a form of self-teaching:
The 5-second analysis identifies situations when I want some desired behaviour to trigger, and to pre-think my reaction to the point where it doesn’t take me more than 5 seconds to use. In effect, I am installing a memory of thoughts that I wish to have in a future situation. (I could understand this as communcating with “future me” if I like science fiction. ;) Your method of limiting this to the “5-second-level” aims to make this pre-thinking specific enough so that it actually works. With practice, this response will trigger subconsciously, and I’ll have modified my behaviour.
It would be nice if that would actually help to talk about rationality more clearly (but won’t we be too specific and miss the big picture?), and it would be nice if that would help us arrive at a “rationality syllabus” and a way to teach it. I’m looking forward to reports of using this technique in an educational setting; what the experience of you and your students were in trying to implement this. Until your theory’s tested in that kind of setting, it’s no more than a theory, and I’m disinclined to believe your “you need to” from the first sentence in your article.
Is rationality just a behaviour, or is it more? Can we become (more) rational by changing our behaviour, and then have that changed behaviour change our mind?
Of course, these analyses and exercises would also serve beautifully as use-cases and tests if you wanted to create an AI that can pass a Turing test for being rational. ;-)
Eliezer, you state in the intro that the 5-second-level is a “method of teaching rationality skills”. I think it is something different.
First, the analysis phase is breaking down behaviour patterns into something conscious; this can apply to my own patterns as I figure out what I need to (or want to) teach, or to other people’s patterns that I wish to emulate and instill into myself.
It breaks down “rationality” into small chunks of “behaviour” which can then be taught using some sort of conditioning—you’re a bit unclear on how “teaching exercises” for this should be arrived at.
You suggest a form of self-teaching: The 5-second analysis identifies situations when I want some desired behaviour to trigger, and to pre-think my reaction to the point where it doesn’t take me more than 5 seconds to use. In effect, I am installing a memory of thoughts that I wish to have in a future situation. (I could understand this as communcating with “future me” if I like science fiction. ;) Your method of limiting this to the “5-second-level” aims to make this pre-thinking specific enough so that it actually works. With practice, this response will trigger subconsciously, and I’ll have modified my behaviour.
It would be nice if that would actually help to talk about rationality more clearly (but won’t we be too specific and miss the big picture?), and it would be nice if that would help us arrive at a “rationality syllabus” and a way to teach it. I’m looking forward to reports of using this technique in an educational setting; what the experience of you and your students were in trying to implement this. Until your theory’s tested in that kind of setting, it’s no more than a theory, and I’m disinclined to believe your “you need to” from the first sentence in your article.
Is rationality just a behaviour, or is it more? Can we become (more) rational by changing our behaviour, and then have that changed behaviour change our mind?
Of course, these analyses and exercises would also serve beautifully as use-cases and tests if you wanted to create an AI that can pass a Turing test for being rational. ;-)