If for no other reason than you are creating the perception that deotologist never consider consequence. Which is a stupid position that no deotologists should accept.
Someone should have told Kant that.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Good call. I don’t normally like Post-Rock, but when I’m studying, I can just plug it into Pandora and go.
This looks like it might be helpful for me. I shall report back in a few days with some data points. Thanks for this!
Wow, I’ve been hoping for this for a while now. :)
I really, really hope I’ll be able to attend, and if I do, I can give up to two people a ride from Jerusalem. Unfortunately, I have a test that same day, and I do not yet know the time at which it will take place, so I can’t RSVP quite yet.
Then why bring it up?
I know how most atheists feel about the Bible. Really, I do. But if you don’t understand what’s so powerful about a book, and you want to know, then you really should give it a try—I might say that the last chapter of Moroni especially addresses this.
I grew up on the Bible. I studied the Bible for over a decade. I have read the Old Testament in Hebrew.
It’s the most boring thing I’ve ever laid eyes on.
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Excuse me?
Um, why cut off the conversation at this point rather than your original one, in that case?
(ETA: It occurs to me that David Chalmers, who is LW-friendly and the editor of Metametaphysics, would be a good person to ask about the tenability of philosophical theism, from a metaphilosophical perspective. I might send him an email / LW message.)
Did you ever end up doing this, and if so, would you mind sharing the response?
I’m going to read an undergrad textbook on every subject I claim to be interested in.
You’ve inspired me to do the same. :)
But I suspect some sort of Bayesian analysis might support this, because if there is a deity, it is likely to create universes,
Okay, so what makes you think this is true? I’m wondering how on earth we would even figure out how to answer this question, let alone be sure of the answer.
whereas if there is no deity, universes have to form spontaneously, which requires a lot of things to fall into place perfectly.
What has to fall into place for this to occur? Exactly how unlikely is it?
Let’s imagine two universes. One formed spontaneously, one was created. Which is more likely to occur?
Personally I think that the created one seems more likely.
What evidence makes you think this?
For me, it’s been effective with just one other person (often tkadlubo himself :p) in the room, but I find it’s most effective when there are three to five others working.
I hadn’t noticed that until you pointed it out. That is genius.
You don’t find that surnames in Hebrew just get mispronounced a ton, in general? Other than ones which have standard pronunciation, I encounter constant errors with people trying to figure out which vowels to put where when it comes to last names, although that may be biased because my last name, despite being very straightforward in English, is a puzzle for Israelis.
Also, from anecdotal data and a bit of personal knowledge, changing your last name here in Israel doesn’t seem like much of a hassle, other than having to do it in person.
Reminds me of all the Jewish actors who’ve changed their names to make it in Hollywood, and all the executives who’ve done the exact opposite.
Good point.
Whatever that term “SREoE” means (I keep going up and keep not seeing an explanation)
They’re using it to mean “sufficiently reliable evaluator of evidence”.
Yes, the conversation with drnickbone below is how my response would have gone as well, and you’re right in that sometimes consequences matter to Deontologists and sometimes they don’t. I also think we’ve had this conversation before, because I remember that example. :D