fully agree with this.
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I think lot of people indirectly follow the things written in the post—I certainly do. What we actually try to do all the time is: Not try to control things which cannot be, we have to accept certain things are beyond us, and we deal with things which we think we can deal with, isn’t it?
Comes a day, when a creationist is hell bent on having a debate to prove how rationalists/biologists are ignorant, and that day, we will send a college-student-rationalist—there is no need to go out there and bat for Darwin, but we would act in defense if required to.
got it
Your strength as a rationalist is your ability to be more confused by fiction than by reality.
--Eliezer (http://lesswrong.com/lw/if/your_strength_as_a_rationalist/)
Few quotes from the article:
“Bananas were created by God for human enjoyment, for why else would they come in such convenient cases?”
″...Am I to hope that, in the hereafter, a rationalist God will reward me for having the intellectual integrity not to believe in Him?”.....
...Right, but if the only reason it works is that you believe it works, then how can it work if you know it only works because you believe it works?”...
...”Richard Dawkins, the biologist, was once asked about a study claiming that the devout live longer on average than atheists. He replied that, even if that were so, he’d rather know the truth about where he came from and die early than live longer under a fantasy.”
. …. “In other words: the stupider, more ignorant, more irrational you can prove you are, the better the chance you have of winning”.
When Douglas Yates wrote that “people who are sensible about love are incapable of it,” he might have added a footnote: “the Darwinian explanation for this fact arises from certain paradoxes of rationality in games played by agents known to each other to have bounded computational capacity.”
Yes webcast would be heaven; a chance to catch all the best at one place
Is there a webcast of the same for the people around the world?
I don’t know if it is appropriate to even post this thing, but I didn’t find a single thread which talks about the kind of music people in this forum listen to. Has it ever happened that you have used rationality to decide the kind of music you should be listening to? Like all the other things, even listening to music needs “training” (the ears in this case). Music is art-form, so can it be quantified? One might get the same satisfaction listen to MJ or Pat Metheny. But if it happens that you have to choose only two records to listen to for the rest of your life, can rationality help there?
yeah, just totally missed it...edited now
This is one of those posts where I think “I wish I could understand the post”. Way to technical for me right now. I sometimes wish that someone can do a “Non-Technical” and Non-mathematical version of posts like these ones. (but I guess it will take too much time and effort). But then I get away saying, I don’t need to understand everything, do I?
“To rationalize their lies, people—and the governments, churches, or terrorist cells they compose—are apt to regard their private interests and desires as just.”
--Wendy Kaminer (A woman social activist)
What is wrong with that?
Whenever, then, anything in nature seems to us ridiculous, absurd or evil, it is because we have but a partial knowledge of things, and are in the main ignorant of order and coherence of nature as a whole, and because we want everything to be arranged according to dictates of our own reason; although in fact, what our reason pronounces bad is not as bad as regards the order and laws of universal nature, but only as regards the order and laws of our own nature taken separately.… As for the terms good and bad, they indicate nothing positive considered in themselves...For one and the same thing can at the same time be good, bad and indifferent. For example, music is good to the melancholy, bad to mourners and indifferent to the dead. ---Spinoza
From the story of philosophy by Will durant
Alice came to a fork in the road. “Which road do I take?” she asked. “Where do you want to go?” responded the Cheshire cat. “I don’t know,” Alice answered. “Then,” said the cat, “it doesn’t matter.” ~Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland
Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide
I don’t get you
yeah, very well put, every reason to give the art of rationality a chance
Are you a meat-eater?