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Valley of Bad Rationality

TagLast edit: Nov 13, 2021, 6:54 AM by Multicore

Then I finally reply that my experience so far—even in this realm of merely human possibility—does seem to indicate that, once you sort yourself out a bit and you aren’t doing quite so many other things wrong, striving for more rationality actually will make you better off. The long road leads out of the valley and higher than before, even in the human lands.

Incremental Progress and the Valley

It has been observed that when someone is just starting to learn rationality, they sometimes appear to be worse off than they were before. Someone else may then allege that after this person learns even more about rationality, they will finally be better off than they were before they started. The period before this improvement is known as “the valley of bad rationality”.

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See also

Know­ing About Bi­ases Can Hurt People

Eliezer YudkowskyApr 4, 2007, 6:01 PM
225 points
82 comments2 min readLW link

In­cre­men­tal Progress and the Valley

Eliezer YudkowskyApr 4, 2009, 4:42 PM
98 points
113 comments6 min readLW link

Rea­son as memetic im­mune disorder

PhilGoetzSep 19, 2009, 9:05 PM
507 points
185 comments5 min readLW link

Mak­ing your ex­plicit rea­son­ing trust­wor­thy

AnnaSalamonOct 29, 2010, 12:00 AM
121 points
95 comments6 min readLW link

“No ev­i­dence” as a Valley of Bad Rationality

Adam ZernerMar 28, 2020, 11:45 PM
106 points
21 comments2 min readLW link1 review

My ex­pe­rience with the “ra­tio­nal­ist un­canny valley”

Thomas KwaApr 23, 2020, 8:27 PM
66 points
18 comments5 min readLW link

A Pro­cess for Deal­ing with Mo­ti­vated Reasoning

Vaughn PapenhausenSep 3, 2018, 3:34 AM
15 points
7 comments3 min readLW link

On the Open­ness per­son­al­ity trait & ‘ra­tio­nal­ity’

gwernOct 14, 2011, 1:07 AM
77 points
97 comments8 min readLW link

Sun­set at Noon

RaemonNov 21, 2017, 2:05 AM
217 points
31 comments17 min readLW link

Why Don’t Ra­tion­al­ists Win?

Adam ZernerSep 5, 2015, 12:57 AM
11 points
118 comments6 min readLW link

STRUCTURE: Real­ity and ra­tio­nal best practice

HazardFeb 1, 2019, 11:51 PM
5 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

Emo­tional tools for the be­gin­ner rationalist

Gleb_TsipurskyOct 9, 2015, 5:01 AM
6 points
43 comments2 min readLW link

Prob­lem of Op­ti­mal False Information

EndoviorOct 15, 2012, 9:42 PM
26 points
113 comments1 min readLW link

Bad reductionism

Adam ZernerDec 16, 2020, 8:21 AM
12 points
3 comments3 min readLW link