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Eco­nomic Con­se­quences of AGI

TagLast edit: 3 Jun 2021 23:24 UTC by habryka

The economic consequences of artificial general intelligence arise from their fundamentally new properties compared to the human brains currently driving the economy. Once such digital minds become generally intelligent enough to perform a wide range of economic functions, they are likely to bring radical changes, creating great wealth, but also displacing humans out of more and more types of job.

An important aspect of the question is that of economic growth. The invention of AGI or WBE could cause a sudden increase in growth by adding machine intelligence to the pool of human innovators. Machine intelligence could be much cheaper to produce, faster, and qualitatively smarter than human talent. A feedback loop from better machine intelligence technology, to more and better machine researchers, back to better machine intelligence technology could ensue.

Robin Hanson has written much about the economics of whole brain emulation. In his view, the unrestricted creation of additional uploads will cause a Malthusian scenario, where upload wages fall to subsistence levels. He sees the transition to whole brain emulation as a jump to a new “growth mode” with higher exponential growth rates, similar to the transitions to agriculture and industry.

In “The Future of Human Evolution”, Nick Bostrom argues that in an emulated-brain society with individuals living at subsistence levels, entities that possess a large set of features we care about – which he calls flamboyant displays, or culture in general – will be outcompeted by more efficient ones that lack inefficient humans’ cultural aspects. This will lead to elimination of all forms of being that we care about. He proposes that only a Singleton could ensure strict control in order to prevent the elimination of culture through outcompetition.

Others predict that growth will blow up even more suddenly (up to the point where physical limits become relevant), and that growth will be concentrated in a smaller and more coherent set of agents, so that instead of continued free market competition, we will see a singleton emerge.

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[Question] What Other Lines of Work are Safe from AI Au­toma­tion?

RogerDearnaley11 Jul 2024 10:01 UTC
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Some­thing Un­fath­omable: Unal­igned Hu­man­ity and how we’re rac­ing against death with death

Yuli_Ban27 Feb 2023 11:37 UTC
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Rogue AGI Em­bod­ies Valuable In­tel­lec­tual Property

3 Jun 2021 20:37 UTC
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“Hereti­cal Thoughts on AI” by Eli Dourado

DragonGod19 Jan 2023 16:11 UTC
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(www.elidourado.com)

Dragon Ball’s Hyper­bolic Time Chamber

gwern2 Sep 2012 23:49 UTC
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The Solow-Swan model of eco­nomic growth

Matthew Barnett29 Aug 2021 18:55 UTC
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Adam Smith Meets AI Doomers

James_Miller31 Jan 2024 15:53 UTC
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Mod­ify­ing Jones’ “AI Dilemma” Model

harsimony4 Mar 2024 21:55 UTC
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(splittinginfinity.substack.com)

The two-tiered society

Roman Leventov13 May 2024 7:53 UTC
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The Great Data In­te­gra­tion Schlep

sarahconstantin13 Sep 2024 15:40 UTC
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(sarahconstantin.substack.com)

AI Sum­mer Harvest

Cleo Nardo4 Apr 2023 3:35 UTC
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Ex­ces­sive AI growth-rate yields lit­tle so­cio-eco­nomic benefit.

Cleo Nardo4 Apr 2023 19:13 UTC
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Wel­come to the decade of Em

Ozyrus10 Apr 2023 7:45 UTC
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The Overem­ployed Via ChatGPT

Zvi18 Apr 2023 13:40 UTC
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(thezvi.wordpress.com)

Chad Jones pa­per mod­el­ing AI and x-risk vs. growth

jasoncrawford26 Apr 2023 20:07 UTC
39 points
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(web.stanford.edu)

Thriv­ing in the Weird Times: Prepar­ing for the 100X Economy

8 May 2023 13:44 UTC
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The im­pact of whole brain emulation

jefftk14 May 2013 19:59 UTC
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Whole Brain Emu­la­tion: Look­ing At Progress On C. elgans

jefftk29 Oct 2011 15:21 UTC
60 points
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Whole Brain Emu­la­tion & DL: imi­ta­tion learn­ing for faster AGI?

gwern22 Oct 2018 15:07 UTC
15 points
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(www.reddit.com)

[link] Whole Brain Emu­la­tion and the Evolu­tion of Superorganisms

Wei Dai3 May 2011 23:38 UTC
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Su­per­in­tel­li­gence via whole brain emulation

AlexMennen17 Aug 2016 4:11 UTC
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Hedg­ing our Bets: The Case for Pur­su­ing Whole Brain Emu­la­tion to Safe­guard Hu­man­ity’s Future

inklesspen1 Mar 2010 2:32 UTC
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New WBE implementation

Louie30 Nov 2012 11:16 UTC
27 points
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In­ter­mit­tent Distil­la­tions #4: Semi­con­duc­tors, Eco­nomics, In­tel­li­gence, and Tech­nolog­i­cal Progress.

Mark Xu8 Jul 2021 22:14 UTC
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Some thoughts on David Rood­man’s GWP model and its re­la­tion to AI timelines

Tom Davidson19 Jul 2021 22:59 UTC
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AI art isn’t “about to shake things up”. It’s already here.

Davis_Kingsley22 Aug 2022 11:17 UTC
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Ar­gu­ment against 20% GDP growth from AI within 10 years [Linkpost]

aogara12 Sep 2022 4:08 UTC
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(twitter.com)

AI Timelines via Cu­mu­la­tive Op­ti­miza­tion Power: Less Long, More Short

jacob_cannell6 Oct 2022 0:21 UTC
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33 comments6 min readLW link

s/​acc: Safe Ac­cel­er­a­tionism Manifesto

lorepieri19 Dec 2023 22:19 UTC
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(lorenzopieri.com)

Phase tran­si­tions and AGI

17 Mar 2022 17:22 UTC
45 points
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(www.metaculus.com)

cy­ber­punk raccoons

bhauth28 Apr 2023 2:52 UTC
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(bhauth.com)

2. AIs as Eco­nomic Agents

RogerDearnaley23 Nov 2023 7:07 UTC
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Hyper­bolic takeoff

Ege Erdil9 Apr 2022 15:57 UTC
18 points
7 comments10 min readLW link
(www.metaculus.com)

Are healthy choices effec­tive for im­prov­ing live ex­pec­tancy any­more?

Christopher King8 May 2023 21:25 UTC
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Why Job Dis­place­ment Pre­dic­tions are Wrong: Ex­pla­na­tions of Cog­ni­tive Automation

Moritz Wallawitsch30 May 2023 20:43 UTC
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Trans­for­ma­tive AI is a pro­cess

meijer19738 Jun 2023 8:57 UTC
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Em­bod­i­ment is Indis­pens­able for AGI

P. G. Keerthana Gopalakrishnan7 Jun 2022 21:31 UTC
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(keerthanapg.com)

Will peo­ple be mo­ti­vated to learn difficult dis­ci­plines and skills with­out eco­nomic in­cen­tive?

Roman Leventov20 Mar 2023 9:26 UTC
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Will we ever run out of new jobs?

Kevin Kohler19 Aug 2024 15:04 UTC
17 points
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(machinocene.substack.com)

After Over­mor­row: Scat­tered Mus­ings on the Im­me­di­ate Post-AGI World

Yuli_Ban24 Feb 2024 15:49 UTC
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AGI and the EMH: mar­kets are not ex­pect­ing al­igned or un­al­igned AI in the next 30 years

10 Jan 2023 16:06 UTC
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Against us­ing stock prices to fore­cast AI timelines

10 Jan 2023 16:03 UTC
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What you re­ally mean when you claim to sup­port “UBI for job au­toma­tion”: Part 1

Deric Cheng13 May 2024 8:52 UTC
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Why Swiss watches and Tay­lor Swift are AGI-proof

Kevin Kohler5 Sep 2024 13:23 UTC
17 points
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(machinocene.substack.com)

Univer­sal ba­sic in­come isn’t always AGI-proof

Kevin Kohler5 Sep 2024 15:39 UTC
5 points
3 comments7 min readLW link
(machinocene.substack.com)

La­bor Par­ti­ci­pa­tion is a High-Pri­or­ity AI Align­ment Risk

alex17 Jun 2024 18:09 UTC
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La­bor Par­ti­ci­pa­tion is an Align­ment Risk

alex25 Jun 2024 14:15 UTC
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Brain­storm­ing: Slow Takeoff

David Piepgrass23 Jan 2024 6:58 UTC
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“The Sin­gu­lar­ity Is Nearer” by Ray Kurzweil—Review

Lavender8 Jul 2024 21:32 UTC
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AI Rights for Hu­man Safety

Simon Goldstein1 Aug 2024 23:01 UTC
45 points
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(papers.ssrn.com)

Dario Amodei — Machines of Lov­ing Grace

Matrice Jacobine11 Oct 2024 21:43 UTC
61 points
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(darioamodei.com)

Model­ing AI-driven oc­cu­pa­tional change over the next 10 years and beyond

2120eth12 Nov 2024 4:58 UTC
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Job Board (28 March 2033)

dr_s28 Mar 2023 22:44 UTC
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AGI: Hire Soft­ware Eng­ineers—All of Them, Right Now

MGow30 Mar 2023 18:40 UTC
−18 points
3 comments1 min readLW link

AGI de­ploy­ment as an act of aggression

dr_s5 Apr 2023 6:39 UTC
27 points
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The benev­olence of the butcher

dr_s8 Apr 2023 16:29 UTC
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