Not at all. You still have to evaluate this offer using your own mind and values. You can’t sidestep this process by simply assuming that Creator’s will by definition is the purpose of your life, and therefore you have no choice but to obey.
I’ll focus on this first, as it seems that the other points would be moot if we can’t even agree on this one. Are you really saying that even if you know with 100% certainty that God exists AND lays down explicit laws for you to follow AND maximally rewards you for all eternity for following those laws AND maximally punishes you for all eternity for failing to folllow those laws, you would still have to “evaluate” and could potentially arrive at a conclusion other than that the purpose of life is follow God’s laws?
How does someone punishing you or rewarding you make their laws your purpose in life (other than you choosing that you want to be rewarded and not punished)?
To be rewarded (and even more so “maximally rewarded”) is to be given something you actually want (and the reverse for being punished). That’s the definition of what a reward/punishment is. You don’t “choose” to want/not want it, any more than you “choose” your utility function. It just is what it is. Being “rewarded” with something you don’t want is a contradiction in terms: at best someone tried to reward you, but that attempt failed.
I see your argument. You are saying that “maximal reward”, by definition, is something that gives us the maximum utility from all possible actions, and so, by definition, it is our purpose in life.
But actually, utility is a function of both the action (getting two golden bricks) and what it rewards (murdering my child), not merely a function of the action itself (getting two golden bricks).
And so it happens that for many possible demands that I could be given (“you have to murder your child”), there are no possible rewards that would give me more utility than not obeying the command.
For that reason, simply because someone will maximally reward me for obeying them doesn’t make their commands my objective purpose in life.
Of course, we can respond “but then, by definition, they aren’t maximally rewarding you” and by that definition, it would be a correct statement to make. The problem here is that the set of all possible commands for which I can’t (by that definition) be maximally rewarded is so vast that the statement “if someone maximally rewards/punishes you, their orders are your purpose of life” becomes meaningless.
The problem here is that the set of all possible commands for which I can’t (by that definition) be maximally rewarded is so vast that the statement “if someone maximally rewards/punishes you, their orders are your purpose of life” becomes meaningless.
Not true, as the reward could include all of the unwanted consequences of following the command being divinely reverted a fraction of a second later.
That wouldn’t help. Then the utility would be calculated from (getting two golden bricks) and (murdering my child for a fraction of a second), which still brings lower utility than not following the command.
The set of possible commands for which I can’t be maximally rewarded still remains too vast for the statement to be meaningful.
This sounds absurd to me. Unless of course you’re taking the “two golden bricks” literally, in which case I invite you to substitute it by “saving 1 billion other lives” and seeing if your position still stands.
I’ll focus on this first, as it seems that the other points would be moot if we can’t even agree on this one. Are you really saying that even if you know with 100% certainty that God exists AND lays down explicit laws for you to follow AND maximally rewards you for all eternity for following those laws AND maximally punishes you for all eternity for failing to folllow those laws, you would still have to “evaluate” and could potentially arrive at a conclusion other than that the purpose of life is follow God’s laws?
How does someone punishing you or rewarding you make their laws your purpose in life (other than you choosing that you want to be rewarded and not punished)?
To be rewarded (and even more so “maximally rewarded”) is to be given something you actually want (and the reverse for being punished). That’s the definition of what a reward/punishment is. You don’t “choose” to want/not want it, any more than you “choose” your utility function. It just is what it is. Being “rewarded” with something you don’t want is a contradiction in terms: at best someone tried to reward you, but that attempt failed.
I see your argument. You are saying that “maximal reward”, by definition, is something that gives us the maximum utility from all possible actions, and so, by definition, it is our purpose in life.
But actually, utility is a function of both the action (getting two golden bricks) and what it rewards (murdering my child), not merely a function of the action itself (getting two golden bricks).
And so it happens that for many possible demands that I could be given (“you have to murder your child”), there are no possible rewards that would give me more utility than not obeying the command.
For that reason, simply because someone will maximally reward me for obeying them doesn’t make their commands my objective purpose in life.
Of course, we can respond “but then, by definition, they aren’t maximally rewarding you” and by that definition, it would be a correct statement to make. The problem here is that the set of all possible commands for which I can’t (by that definition) be maximally rewarded is so vast that the statement “if someone maximally rewards/punishes you, their orders are your purpose of life” becomes meaningless.
Not true, as the reward could include all of the unwanted consequences of following the command being divinely reverted a fraction of a second later.
That wouldn’t help. Then the utility would be calculated from (getting two golden bricks) and (murdering my child for a fraction of a second), which still brings lower utility than not following the command.
The set of possible commands for which I can’t be maximally rewarded still remains too vast for the statement to be meaningful.
This sounds absurd to me. Unless of course you’re taking the “two golden bricks” literally, in which case I invite you to substitute it by “saving 1 billion other lives” and seeing if your position still stands.