it’s a general issue with the way CFAR operates, building up intense social connections over the course of a weekend, then dropping them suddenly.
So, this is definitely a thing that happens, and I’m aware of and sad about it, but it’s worth pointing out that this is a generic property of all sufficiently good workshops and things like workshops (e.g. summer camps) everywhere (the ones that aren’t sufficiently good don’t build the intense social connections in the first place), and to the extent that it’s a problem CFAR runs into, 1) I think it’s a little unfair to characterize it as the result of something CFAR is particularly doing that other similar organizations aren’t doing, and 2) as far as I know nobody else knows what to do about this either.
Or are you suggesting that the workshops shouldn’t be trying to build intense social connections?
I don’t think he was criticizing CFAR workshops, but people who implicitly expect their own communities to automatically produce the same intense social connections.
I agree with these statements, and clone of saturn is correct I was talking about an implicit expectation other rationalist communities will produce the same intense social connections found at CFAR workshops (and also attributed to the Berkeley community generally, but as stardust points out this isn’t as amazing as myself and others had built it up to be).
So, this is definitely a thing that happens, and I’m aware of and sad about it, but it’s worth pointing out that this is a generic property of all sufficiently good workshops and things like workshops (e.g. summer camps) everywhere (the ones that aren’t sufficiently good don’t build the intense social connections in the first place), and to the extent that it’s a problem CFAR runs into, 1) I think it’s a little unfair to characterize it as the result of something CFAR is particularly doing that other similar organizations aren’t doing, and 2) as far as I know nobody else knows what to do about this either.
Or are you suggesting that the workshops shouldn’t be trying to build intense social connections?
I don’t think he was criticizing CFAR workshops, but people who implicitly expect their own communities to automatically produce the same intense social connections.
Yes, this is what I was getting at. Thanks.
I agree with these statements, and clone of saturn is correct I was talking about an implicit expectation other rationalist communities will produce the same intense social connections found at CFAR workshops (and also attributed to the Berkeley community generally, but as stardust points out this isn’t as amazing as myself and others had built it up to be).