What was wrong with the classification of anti-realists?
Where would “Morality as fixed computation” fit in your typology? Or metaethical constructivism? Like, it’s fine to dunk on error theorists or relativists all you want, but it’s not real relevant to LW. Individual subjectivism is sort of closer, but I would have liked to see a typology that included things LWers might actually endorse.
As another example of something not fitting in your typology, consider the rules of baseball. We all agree baseball is socially constructed—it’s not trying to conform to some Platonic ideal, the rules could easily have been different, they arose through some social process, etc. And yet facts about baseball are also pretty solid—it’s not a matter of opinion whether it takes three strikes or four to get a batter out.
You might say that baseball is in fact culturally relativist. After all, society came up with the rules of baseball in the first place, and has agreed to change the rules of baseball before.
But suppose the Nazis had won the war, and in this alternate history they forced everyone to play baseball with a large ball filled with air, and there was no pitcher or batters, instead you gained points by getting the ball through a goal guarded by the opposing team, and you weren’t allowed to touch the ball with your arms. It should seem obvious that what is going on is not that the Nazis made it true that “in baseball you kick the ball with your feet.” All they did was outlaw baseball entirely, and force everyone to play soccer football. When the alternate-reality Nazis say “Baseball is played with eleven players on a side,” they’re simply not talking about baseball. So is baseball non-cognitivist, because the Nazis’ statements aren’t actually about the thing they syntactically seem to be about? But again, when you talk about baseball, you’re capable of making perfectly good true or false statements.
Where would “Morality as fixed computation” fit in your typology?
Failing to address most of the issues. Theres nothing about whether everyone has the same computation , and there’s nothing about how to resolve conflicts, if they don’t. There’s also nothing about obligation or punishment....
Where would “Morality as fixed computation” fit in your typology? Or metaethical constructivism? Like, it’s fine to dunk on error theorists or relativists all you want, but it’s not real relevant to LW. Individual subjectivism is sort of closer, but I would have liked to see a typology that included things LWers might actually endorse.
As another example of something not fitting in your typology, consider the rules of baseball. We all agree baseball is socially constructed—it’s not trying to conform to some Platonic ideal, the rules could easily have been different, they arose through some social process, etc. And yet facts about baseball are also pretty solid—it’s not a matter of opinion whether it takes three strikes or four to get a batter out.
You might say that baseball is in fact culturally relativist. After all, society came up with the rules of baseball in the first place, and has agreed to change the rules of baseball before.
But suppose the Nazis had won the war, and in this alternate history they forced everyone to play baseball with a large ball filled with air, and there was no pitcher or batters, instead you gained points by getting the ball through a goal guarded by the opposing team, and you weren’t allowed to touch the ball with your arms. It should seem obvious that what is going on is not that the Nazis made it true that “in baseball you kick the ball with your feet.” All they did was outlaw baseball entirely, and force everyone to play
soccerfootball. When the alternate-reality Nazis say “Baseball is played with eleven players on a side,” they’re simply not talking about baseball. So is baseball non-cognitivist, because the Nazis’ statements aren’t actually about the thing they syntactically seem to be about? But again, when you talk about baseball, you’re capable of making perfectly good true or false statements.Probably some type of relativism.
Failing to address most of the issues. Theres nothing about whether everyone has the same computation , and there’s nothing about how to resolve conflicts, if they don’t. There’s also nothing about obligation or punishment....
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FnJPa8E9ZG5xiLLp5/morality-as-fixed-computation