Note: I currently lean towards changing the Progress Bar metric from “tagged posts over 25 karma” to 35 or 40 karma.
The original reason we went with 25 karma was an awkward compromise due to the LW2.0 karma inflation – old upvotes were only worth 1 point, now regular upvotes are worth 2 for most longtime users, and strong upvotes mean the average is more like 3-4. We haven’t gotten around to re-running the old vote history with the new vote-weighting, and that means that old (often great) posts have much lower karma than modern posts.
We plan to bring the old and new votes in sync someday, but didn’t have time to do it this week.
For modern posts, the threshold I’d have preferred to set was ~50 karma. This was roughly the equivalent of 25 back-in-the-day (hence the original metric). But I don’t really want to make people feel obligated to tag a bunch of mediocre modern posts – I’d rather taggers start shifting their efforts towards improving tag descriptions (turn stubs into full fledged A or B tier tags), and thinking about how the tag ontology fits together (i.e. are some tags duplicates? which tags are related?)
My current guess is we should set the threshold to 40, and then I’m just going to strong upvote a bunch of older posts that deserve it to bump them over the threshold.
(Meanwhile, to all the users who have doing doing tons of tagging: thanks!)
Update: I didn’t end up doing this, in part because it felt kinda lame to change the Progress Bar after the fact, partly because I realized it was relatively easy to at least get everything tagged with one of the core tags. (it’s still nicer if posts can get More Specific Tags)
I would like to get the Progress Bar completed this week. Would anyone be interested in a zoom call coworking session where we set aside an afternoon or evening (maybe tomorrow if people are around) and then just… try to marathon the last chunk of tags?
(note that this isn’t the last of the tagging work – the next chunks will probably be focusing more on “cleaning up the existing tag ontology, and making sure all the processed/approved tags get a one-paragraph description at least, and/or improving the text quality)
Note: I currently lean towards changing the Progress Bar metric from “tagged posts over 25 karma” to 35 or 40 karma.
The original reason we went with 25 karma was an awkward compromise due to the LW2.0 karma inflation – old upvotes were only worth 1 point, now regular upvotes are worth 2 for most longtime users, and strong upvotes mean the average is more like 3-4. We haven’t gotten around to re-running the old vote history with the new vote-weighting, and that means that old (often great) posts have much lower karma than modern posts.
We plan to bring the old and new votes in sync someday, but didn’t have time to do it this week.
For modern posts, the threshold I’d have preferred to set was ~50 karma. This was roughly the equivalent of 25 back-in-the-day (hence the original metric). But I don’t really want to make people feel obligated to tag a bunch of mediocre modern posts – I’d rather taggers start shifting their efforts towards improving tag descriptions (turn stubs into full fledged A or B tier tags), and thinking about how the tag ontology fits together (i.e. are some tags duplicates? which tags are related?)
My current guess is we should set the threshold to 40, and then I’m just going to strong upvote a bunch of older posts that deserve it to bump them over the threshold.
(Meanwhile, to all the users who have doing doing tons of tagging: thanks!)
Update: I didn’t end up doing this, in part because it felt kinda lame to change the Progress Bar after the fact, partly because I realized it was relatively easy to at least get everything tagged with one of the core tags. (it’s still nicer if posts can get More Specific Tags)
I would like to get the Progress Bar completed this week. Would anyone be interested in a zoom call coworking session where we set aside an afternoon or evening (maybe tomorrow if people are around) and then just… try to marathon the last chunk of tags?
(note that this isn’t the last of the tagging work – the next chunks will probably be focusing more on “cleaning up the existing tag ontology, and making sure all the processed/approved tags get a one-paragraph description at least, and/or improving the text quality)
I would join such a zoom call. I have also been feeling the call of the progress bar’s final phase.
And my
axemouse!And my touchpad!
Update: I will do this tomorrow at 1pm Pacific Time if that works for others. (I will post a Zoom link when the time comes)
Here is the Zoom link for the Progress Bar Hackathon