I actually would not have generated the substance of the parent comment (or been able to articulate the follow-up explanations) without the pattern-matching described in the analogy you criticized.
This is not a fully formed take yet, but something about this rubs me the wrong way. It seems to me like you’re saying “this reasoning step was correct because it resulted in me reaching conclusion X, which seems correct,” but this doesn’t seem like an adequate response to “this conclusion seems suspect, because it was generated by a reasoning step that seems suspect.” I would expect suspect reasoning steps to be self-reinforcing (because they provide their own support, indirectly, through the conclusions that they make seem convincing), which makes procedural-level injunctions (“hmm, it seems like this reasoning step is suspect for global reasons, even though it looks locally correct”) rather important.
Raemon was criticizing my rhetoric, specifically distinguishing that from a criticism of my argument, and claiming I could make the same argument a different way. I’m saying, no, this is actually how I figured out the thing, and it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise.
This is not a fully formed take yet, but something about this rubs me the wrong way. It seems to me like you’re saying “this reasoning step was correct because it resulted in me reaching conclusion X, which seems correct,” but this doesn’t seem like an adequate response to “this conclusion seems suspect, because it was generated by a reasoning step that seems suspect.” I would expect suspect reasoning steps to be self-reinforcing (because they provide their own support, indirectly, through the conclusions that they make seem convincing), which makes procedural-level injunctions (“hmm, it seems like this reasoning step is suspect for global reasons, even though it looks locally correct”) rather important.
Raemon was criticizing my rhetoric, specifically distinguishing that from a criticism of my argument, and claiming I could make the same argument a different way. I’m saying, no, this is actually how I figured out the thing, and it would be dishonest to pretend otherwise.