As I understand it, in (a grossly twisted) Kahneman’s language, identity is what System 1 is happy to wear, and what you suggest is to use System 2 to pick the outfit to dress System 1 into. Dangerously stretching this metaphor, one has to make sure that the clothes fit. For example, the growth mindset might not fit well if your System 1 is happy to watch TV all night. You also will have trouble if your identity clashes with what others around you wear. It might be enough to get into sweats and sneakers to find oneself going for a run, or you might look silly if everyone else is dressed for a ball. Hmm, have I just switched from metaphorical to physical clothes?
I think I disagree. System 1 doesn’t care about any particular identity nor any particular action. It cares about general, somewhat vague emotions. To use one of you examples: system 1 will not care about watching TV all day. It will care about relax and entertainment. It will be equally happy if you play relaxing and entertaining computer games instead … and you could pick those compatible with the “growth mindset”
I think it depends on whether by ‘identity’ we mean something conscious and deliberate, or something mostly unconscious and automatic. My ‘identity’ as a Californian, as someone who owns lots of black socks, etc. is pretty slow-system, since those are inert discursive facts that happen to occur to me when I think about myself. On the other hand, lots of other generalizations about me are mostly implicit, intuitive, emotional, etc., and they can guide or encapsulate my behavior without my noticing them. Identities are like moods, personality traits, etc.; they tie together large-scale patterns of experience, and consciously recognizing or endorsing them can reify them more, but isn’t always necessary for them to be operational (or, as constructs, explanatory).
My fast system doesn’t like it when I sit and watch TV all day, because it doesn’t want to see itself as a slacker. Does that mean I consciously reasoned through that process, and it’s really a slow-system thing? No, because what I really mean is that there’s a whole bunch of tiny in-the-moment aversions (a sense of listlessness, a tendency for transient sadness to stick around more, a missing sense of novelty+exhilaration+accomplishment, a lack of ‘my interpersonal health bar is going up’ feeling) that start accruing in the background when I veg.
As I understand it, in (a grossly twisted) Kahneman’s language, identity is what System 1 is happy to wear, and what you suggest is to use System 2 to pick the outfit to dress System 1 into. Dangerously stretching this metaphor, one has to make sure that the clothes fit. For example, the growth mindset might not fit well if your System 1 is happy to watch TV all night. You also will have trouble if your identity clashes with what others around you wear. It might be enough to get into sweats and sneakers to find oneself going for a run, or you might look silly if everyone else is dressed for a ball. Hmm, have I just switched from metaphorical to physical clothes?
I think I disagree. System 1 doesn’t care about any particular identity nor any particular action. It cares about general, somewhat vague emotions. To use one of you examples: system 1 will not care about watching TV all day. It will care about relax and entertainment. It will be equally happy if you play relaxing and entertaining computer games instead … and you could pick those compatible with the “growth mindset”
I think it depends on whether by ‘identity’ we mean something conscious and deliberate, or something mostly unconscious and automatic. My ‘identity’ as a Californian, as someone who owns lots of black socks, etc. is pretty slow-system, since those are inert discursive facts that happen to occur to me when I think about myself. On the other hand, lots of other generalizations about me are mostly implicit, intuitive, emotional, etc., and they can guide or encapsulate my behavior without my noticing them. Identities are like moods, personality traits, etc.; they tie together large-scale patterns of experience, and consciously recognizing or endorsing them can reify them more, but isn’t always necessary for them to be operational (or, as constructs, explanatory).
My fast system doesn’t like it when I sit and watch TV all day, because it doesn’t want to see itself as a slacker. Does that mean I consciously reasoned through that process, and it’s really a slow-system thing? No, because what I really mean is that there’s a whole bunch of tiny in-the-moment aversions (a sense of listlessness, a tendency for transient sadness to stick around more, a missing sense of novelty+exhilaration+accomplishment, a lack of ‘my interpersonal health bar is going up’ feeling) that start accruing in the background when I veg.