Rationalists are capable of impressive feats individually, and accomplish miracles when working in groups.
I believe it when I see it. Any real-life examples where previously ordinary people who mastered zen and the art of rationality “accomplished miracles”?
I think that part was meant to be fictional, as part of the hypothetical Future with the flying cars, etc.
I don’t think we’ve come close to perfecting the Art yet, especially in groups. I feel like we’ve stalled somehow, years ago, and I’m not sure what to do about it.
I understand it’s meant to be fictional, but probably less fictional than Harry Potter-style magic, in that it is assumed to be achievable without supernatural miracles. Still, the conjecture is that most people would measurably benefit from learning rationality, as opposed to, say, math or tarot cards, and one would expect these benefits to start showing up quite visibly after 10+ years of the community existing.
Still, the conjecture is that most people would measurably benefit from learning rationality, as opposed to, say, math or tarot cards, and one would expect these benefits to start showing up quite visibly after 10+ years of the community existing.
How useful was learning chemistry 10+ years of the chemistry community existing?
The assumptions depends a lot on how much of possible rationality techniques we already discovered and for those techniques that we did discover we actually got people to use them on a regular basis.
How useful was learning chemistry 10+ years of the chemistry community existing?
Good question. I don’t know what reference class is appropriate here. I can’t come up with other communities like this off the top of my head.
The assumptions depends a lot on how much of possible rationality techniques we already discovered and for those techniques that we did discover we actually got people to use them on a regular basis.
It does. One estimate is “what CFAR teaches”, and I think it’s quite a bit. Whether the CFAR alumni are measurably better than their peers who didn’t attend a CFAR workshop, I don’t know, do you?
I believe it when I see it. Any real-life examples where previously ordinary people who mastered zen and the art of rationality “accomplished miracles”?
I think that part was meant to be fictional, as part of the hypothetical Future with the flying cars, etc.
I don’t think we’ve come close to perfecting the Art yet, especially in groups. I feel like we’ve stalled somehow, years ago, and I’m not sure what to do about it.
I understand it’s meant to be fictional, but probably less fictional than Harry Potter-style magic, in that it is assumed to be achievable without supernatural miracles. Still, the conjecture is that most people would measurably benefit from learning rationality, as opposed to, say, math or tarot cards, and one would expect these benefits to start showing up quite visibly after 10+ years of the community existing.
How useful was learning chemistry 10+ years of the chemistry community existing?
The assumptions depends a lot on how much of possible rationality techniques we already discovered and for those techniques that we did discover we actually got people to use them on a regular basis.
Good question. I don’t know what reference class is appropriate here. I can’t come up with other communities like this off the top of my head.
It does. One estimate is “what CFAR teaches”, and I think it’s quite a bit. Whether the CFAR alumni are measurably better than their peers who didn’t attend a CFAR workshop, I don’t know, do you?