Sounds scary. I’ll look into it and update as appropriate.
You are postulating quite the conspiracy tho. Much more likely it seems that a few b’crats went bonkers, the way you sometimes get UFO nuts out of the military.
Not really. To militaristic Prussia of the time, creating good soldiers was simply the same as creating good citizens, and was considered a worthy goal. No conspiracy required, just doing what seemed obviously correct at the time. And then the Prussian system was so ‘advanced’ and ‘modern’ and ‘successful’ that others copied it.
American experts did not all agree with the ‘military’ goal, but it was believed by the relevant experts that the same sorts of virtues applied to factory workers.
Now people try to actually educate children via this system. It’s like making minor tweaks to a torture device and wondering why it is ineffective at relieving headaches. You put some ibuprofen on the screws, tighten them some more, and subjects report slightly less intense headaches than last time.
Not creating effective soldiers puts you at a military disadvantage. If Prussia was a major power at the time, surely other countries feared them. If other countries felt it was necessary to stifle their populace in order to ensure that they were capable of defending themselves against Prussia (or to defend themselves against the countries that took after Prussia), perhaps stifling the populace was thought to be a “lesser evil”, a sacrifice they justified as part of an arms race.
Maybe this wasn’t an evil conspiracy, but a terrible consequence of the prospect of war.
What’s the bias for: “Ahh! We’re in mortal danger! Quick, everybody, become stupid!”
Sounds scary. I’ll look into it and update as appropriate.
You are postulating quite the conspiracy tho. Much more likely it seems that a few b’crats went bonkers, the way you sometimes get UFO nuts out of the military.
Not really. To militaristic Prussia of the time, creating good soldiers was simply the same as creating good citizens, and was considered a worthy goal. No conspiracy required, just doing what seemed obviously correct at the time. And then the Prussian system was so ‘advanced’ and ‘modern’ and ‘successful’ that others copied it.
American experts did not all agree with the ‘military’ goal, but it was believed by the relevant experts that the same sorts of virtues applied to factory workers.
Now people try to actually educate children via this system. It’s like making minor tweaks to a torture device and wondering why it is ineffective at relieving headaches. You put some ibuprofen on the screws, tighten them some more, and subjects report slightly less intense headaches than last time.
Not creating effective soldiers puts you at a military disadvantage. If Prussia was a major power at the time, surely other countries feared them. If other countries felt it was necessary to stifle their populace in order to ensure that they were capable of defending themselves against Prussia (or to defend themselves against the countries that took after Prussia), perhaps stifling the populace was thought to be a “lesser evil”, a sacrifice they justified as part of an arms race.
Maybe this wasn’t an evil conspiracy, but a terrible consequence of the prospect of war.
What’s the bias for: “Ahh! We’re in mortal danger! Quick, everybody, become stupid!”
Bayesians vs. Barbarians
I wrote a quick introduction to Gatto’s claims of detrimental schooling practices that I think will give you a quick idea of whether it’s worth continuing to look into. Let me know what your reaction is? I’m curious.