How many levels of hierarchy are there in their organizations?
(I’ve read some advance draft’s of Zvi’s sequence and know that an upcoming claim, which I think probably should have been made explicit here, is that this sort of thing is most true in large companies with many layers of hierarchy. i.e. the author of Moral Mazes was in a company with 25 levels)
I hate to identify my employer this precisely, but you can likely guess it from other things I’ve posted, and perhaps just from this. Please don’t out me in any easily-searched way; I like my deniability.
I’ve been 15 years at a very large retail/tech company which has become truly gigantic during my tenure. There are 8 salary levels between entry-level programmer and CEO, and reporting chains of 7-10 are not uncommon for skilled workers (including chains like CEO-SVP-SVP-VP-VP-Director-Sr.Manager-Manager-Manager-IC). Number of salary levels here is ludicrously smaller than normal, but reporting chains are, if anything, deeper than other big companies I know of.
I would be interested to hear the names of companies that have 25 levels of reporting structure. That’s insane.
Thanks for the explicit info. (While I certainly won’t out you, it’d probably fine if you slightly randomized each of the information to make it harder to pin down, if you haven’t already)
I have more thoughts about how this fits into Zvi’s model but I think makes more sense to wait until a future post.
Yeah, I added a note at the top (in original, please reimport) to make this explicit. The requirement to meet this picture is not merely “I have someone who reports to me and someone I report to” ergo all of this, and the discussion about that comes later.
How many levels of hierarchy are there in their organizations?
(I’ve read some advance draft’s of Zvi’s sequence and know that an upcoming claim, which I think probably should have been made explicit here, is that this sort of thing is most true in large companies with many layers of hierarchy. i.e. the author of Moral Mazes was in a company with 25 levels)
I hate to identify my employer this precisely, but you can likely guess it from other things I’ve posted, and perhaps just from this. Please don’t out me in any easily-searched way; I like my deniability.
I’ve been 15 years at a very large retail/tech company which has become truly gigantic during my tenure. There are 8 salary levels between entry-level programmer and CEO, and reporting chains of 7-10 are not uncommon for skilled workers (including chains like CEO-SVP-SVP-VP-VP-Director-Sr.Manager-Manager-Manager-IC). Number of salary levels here is ludicrously smaller than normal, but reporting chains are, if anything, deeper than other big companies I know of.
I would be interested to hear the names of companies that have 25 levels of reporting structure. That’s insane.
Thanks for the explicit info. (While I certainly won’t out you, it’d probably fine if you slightly randomized each of the information to make it harder to pin down, if you haven’t already)
I have more thoughts about how this fits into Zvi’s model but I think makes more sense to wait until a future post.
Yeah, I added a note at the top (in original, please reimport) to make this explicit. The requirement to meet this picture is not merely “I have someone who reports to me and someone I report to” ergo all of this, and the discussion about that comes later.