Maybe you disagree with something that I’ve said here? In that case, what data do you think generated this advice? What conclusions would you derive instead?
I disagree with your claim that obviously wrong information is still worth reading because it gives you clues into the author’s thoughts and the evidence behind them.
This is kinda obvious, but I think that prior experience with successful from following this principle generated the advice. That, and possibly an overestimation of its useful due to the fact that it’s counterintuitive- evidence for it could cause you either to overcorrect, or you may be more likely to remember the times when its correct, since those would probably be more memorable. (Alternately, you may be implicitly referring only to reasonably OK writing, or to descriptions of physical events, in which I’d be more equivocal.)
I’d say that bad interpretations are, in general, not worth reading.
Most incorrect interpretations tend to be very similar; once you’ve, e.g. read one explanation as to why Obama is a Muslim, there’s probably very little more to be gained from reading more. This applies to less wrong, or even correct reasoning, as well- if you understood the first, there’s probably relatively little to be gained from reading two textbooks covering the same material.
There’s no reason to assume that the argument will, in fact, be an interpretation of an event, or, even if it is, that the description will be accurate. Even ignoring, e.g. post-modernist tracts, many accounts involve just making things up. e.g. I ignore anything from the Discovery Institute. (Which would tell me what? Something about what they think they want their readers to know? That’s not useful to me, and I could probably make equally good predictions just by introspection.)
Any time you spend reading one thing is time not spent reading something else; just because the account provides a little useful information isn’t a good reason to read it.
For me, I tend to apply this sort of reasoning when I’m first encountering an author. If I read blatantly false statements from someone who I have no knowledge of, I’ve noticed that I’m very likely to put the book/article aside. If I have any experience with the author, however, I’ve noticed that I read sections that I disagree with very carefully, often several times.
I suspect that I’m applying the halo effect to the articles from authors I like, and anything I dislike becomes jarring and therefore much more interesting. It’s been beneficial, though. I feel like I’ve learned much more from passages I disagree with, but this could also be from having spent more time on them than other sections. Does anyone with speed reading/material retention experience notice the same effect?
is applies to less wrong, or even correct reasoning, as well- if you understood the first, there’s probably relatively little to be gained from reading two textbooks covering the same material.
At least in math, the method of proofs used and approach to the same thing can be different, and quite revealing. Reading the same material with even just different presentations can help one understand what the main ideas are.
I disagree with your claim that obviously wrong information is still worth reading because it gives you clues into the author’s thoughts and the evidence behind them.
This is kinda obvious, but I think that prior experience with successful from following this principle generated the advice. That, and possibly an overestimation of its useful due to the fact that it’s counterintuitive- evidence for it could cause you either to overcorrect, or you may be more likely to remember the times when its correct, since those would probably be more memorable. (Alternately, you may be implicitly referring only to reasonably OK writing, or to descriptions of physical events, in which I’d be more equivocal.)
I’d say that bad interpretations are, in general, not worth reading.
Most incorrect interpretations tend to be very similar; once you’ve, e.g. read one explanation as to why Obama is a Muslim, there’s probably very little more to be gained from reading more. This applies to less wrong, or even correct reasoning, as well- if you understood the first, there’s probably relatively little to be gained from reading two textbooks covering the same material.
There’s no reason to assume that the argument will, in fact, be an interpretation of an event, or, even if it is, that the description will be accurate. Even ignoring, e.g. post-modernist tracts, many accounts involve just making things up. e.g. I ignore anything from the Discovery Institute. (Which would tell me what? Something about what they think they want their readers to know? That’s not useful to me, and I could probably make equally good predictions just by introspection.)
Any time you spend reading one thing is time not spent reading something else; just because the account provides a little useful information isn’t a good reason to read it.
For me, I tend to apply this sort of reasoning when I’m first encountering an author. If I read blatantly false statements from someone who I have no knowledge of, I’ve noticed that I’m very likely to put the book/article aside. If I have any experience with the author, however, I’ve noticed that I read sections that I disagree with very carefully, often several times.
I suspect that I’m applying the halo effect to the articles from authors I like, and anything I dislike becomes jarring and therefore much more interesting. It’s been beneficial, though. I feel like I’ve learned much more from passages I disagree with, but this could also be from having spent more time on them than other sections. Does anyone with speed reading/material retention experience notice the same effect?
I was referring more to reasonably OK writing. Obviously one needs some filter for which texts they read.
At least in math, the method of proofs used and approach to the same thing can be different, and quite revealing. Reading the same material with even just different presentations can help one understand what the main ideas are.
I agree; I’m assuming here that you understood the first textbook well enough that the second one is of much less use.