You can use this kind of definition of politics but you have to be careful as it means that political power has nothing to do with politics. In that frame Robert Moses can have the power to get the parliament in New York to pass whatever bill he wants without him doing anything political.
This is a good point. It’s not the definition of politics I use for everything, just for the purposes of the OP.
Getting diplomats to do exercises to get in touch with their body on the other hand can be a means to get them to come to a peaceful resolution instead of waging war.
I guess it’s fine as an example for depicting how far outside the norm thinking can be. I don’t think you’re using the concept of “Overton window” entirely correctly with your given example. An Overton window isn’t just what in a country what is normal for people to talk about in politics. It’s specifically the window of acceptable political discourse. That doesn’t mean just ‘politically correct’, because while a lot of cultural institutions in, e.g., North America are in the thrall of political correctness, the fact of the matter is there are multiple political factions who disagree with political correctness. Altogether, this leads to what might be a majority of people opposing (different kinds of) political correctness, but for different reasons. So, there is wide opposition to political correctness. It’s just not centralized like the support for political correctness is. So, I’d say in the last few years, ideologies like socialism and nationalism that 20 years ago weren’t in the Overton window are back into it in the United States.
It doesn’t seem the example of diplomats doing exercises isn’t outside the Overton window, because it doesn’t strike me as politically unacceptable. It’s just seems like something most people wouldn’t bring up because for whatever reasons they just wouldn’t see the relevance of it. Or at least they may not be able to affect the personal behaviour of diplomats, so they wouldn’t be the point of discussing it.
It’s specifically the window of acceptable political discourse.
I don’t think it’s within the window of acceptable political discourse within North America to discuss whether or not Trump should do some exercises that get him in touch with his body together with the Chinese before they set down to negotiate, with the goal to get them to mutual understanding of each other.
That’s not an acceptable question to ask about the US-Chinese trade dispute. It’s not just that answers to the questions are problematic, the question itself is outside of the window.
Well, before you were using diplomats as an example, and now you’re specifically talking about the POTUS, which changes everything, especially with regards to the Overton window. Suggesting the POTUS do something is of course much more sensitive than suggesting a generic/random diplomat do the same, regardless of what it is.
This is a good point. It’s not the definition of politics I use for everything, just for the purposes of the OP.
I guess it’s fine as an example for depicting how far outside the norm thinking can be. I don’t think you’re using the concept of “Overton window” entirely correctly with your given example. An Overton window isn’t just what in a country what is normal for people to talk about in politics. It’s specifically the window of acceptable political discourse. That doesn’t mean just ‘politically correct’, because while a lot of cultural institutions in, e.g., North America are in the thrall of political correctness, the fact of the matter is there are multiple political factions who disagree with political correctness. Altogether, this leads to what might be a majority of people opposing (different kinds of) political correctness, but for different reasons. So, there is wide opposition to political correctness. It’s just not centralized like the support for political correctness is. So, I’d say in the last few years, ideologies like socialism and nationalism that 20 years ago weren’t in the Overton window are back into it in the United States.
It doesn’t seem the example of diplomats doing exercises isn’t outside the Overton window, because it doesn’t strike me as politically unacceptable. It’s just seems like something most people wouldn’t bring up because for whatever reasons they just wouldn’t see the relevance of it. Or at least they may not be able to affect the personal behaviour of diplomats, so they wouldn’t be the point of discussing it.
I don’t think it’s within the window of acceptable political discourse within North America to discuss whether or not Trump should do some exercises that get him in touch with his body together with the Chinese before they set down to negotiate, with the goal to get them to mutual understanding of each other.
That’s not an acceptable question to ask about the US-Chinese trade dispute. It’s not just that answers to the questions are problematic, the question itself is outside of the window.
Well, before you were using diplomats as an example, and now you’re specifically talking about the POTUS, which changes everything, especially with regards to the Overton window. Suggesting the POTUS do something is of course much more sensitive than suggesting a generic/random diplomat do the same, regardless of what it is.
It would also not within the discourse to suggest that the other diploments that are involed in the negotiation should do so.