The AI Optimists (i.e. the people in the associated Discord server) have a lot of internal disagreement[1], to the point that I don’t think it’s meaningful to talk about the delta between John and them. That said, I would be interested in specific deltas e.g. with @TurnTrout, in part because he thought we’d get death by default and now doesn’t think that, has distanced himself from LW, and if he replies, is more likely to have a productive argument w/ John than Quintin Pope or Nora Belrose would. Not because he’s better, but because I think John and him would be more legible to each other.
Source: I’m on the AI Optimists Discord server and haven’t seen much to alter my prior belief that ~ everyone in alignment disagrees with everyone else.
The AI Optimists (i.e. the people in the associated Discord server) have a lot of internal disagreement[1], to the point that I don’t think it’s meaningful to talk about the delta between John and them. That said, I would be interested in specific deltas e.g. with @TurnTrout, in part because he thought we’d get death by default and now doesn’t think that, has distanced himself from LW, and if he replies, is more likely to have a productive argument w/ John than Quintin Pope or Nora Belrose would. Not because he’s better, but because I think John and him would be more legible to each other.
Source: I’m on the AI Optimists Discord server and haven’t seen much to alter my prior belief that ~ everyone in alignment disagrees with everyone else.