Recently put into words why I find weightlifting and similar so difficult to motivate myself into doing; despite the demonstrated benefits, it still feels like enemy attire, and every time I attempt it, this alief gets reinforced. I haven;t thought of any good ways to fight the gut reaction, but at least now I’m thinking about it.
I used to wonder why other transhumanists seemed to neglect their bodies so much. All this talk about becoming perfect, immortal machines, yet aside from nootropics and the occasional trendy diet, hardly a one put any effort into optimizing what they had; even the really simple stuff, like maintaining decent hygiene and occasionally wearing things other than T-shirts with clever references on them, often fell by the wayside.
The answer, of course, was that the transhumanist identity for most of these people grew out of their geek identity, and that physical and social fitness were seen as threatening or at least alien for male, American geeks of that era: they coded as the domain of jocks or scenesters or boring preppies. I hadn’t fallen into the same trap because I’d been disillusioned with the culture for a while by then, but perhaps another solution would have been to change the precedence of those identities.
Alternately you could try looking into the Quantified Self scene; I expect that might make the instrumental nature of e.g. weightlifting more salient.
I know it would be beneficial, but weight rooms are populated by people I dislike interacting with and do not wish to be like so that just sticking around takes extra effort. And AFAIK none of the programs like starting strength are the kind of thing you can do in your apartment with minimal equipment (if there is one, I can probably manage that).
Why minimal equipment? Is there a problem with spending money on equipment? Your profile indacates that you are a programmer instead of a poor student.
I am only slightly removed from student, and not at all from poor. It turns out loans are expensive, and reassurances that family would be able to help assuage it were based on cached knowledge that was no longer correct.
But really, the proximate issue is space rather than money. I could probably buy and use these, but not this, regardles of whether I could afford it.
ETA: I have similar space constraints, and because of that, indeed have several dumbbells and kettlebells but no weights bench. I also use a gym, because I have no problem going to a place to work out in which there are other people who are there to work out.
As far as I can tell, starting exercise programs (Starting Strength etc.) generally assume use of a gym. I’d work around that, but the parts where significant weight increases happen quickly would require several sets of weights in quick succession, and that cost is prohibitive.
Adjustable dumbbells are a possible solution. Especially plate loaded handles. I purchased this dumbbell set and expanded it with additional 1.25lb, 10lb, and 25lb plates. I can now load up to 125lbs on a dumbbell, with the limiting factor being the length of the handle. I’m looking to acquire some 20″ handles which should last me for years.
The popular novice programs have optimized the details for progress and effectiveness. The general principles of compound movements, consistency, progressive overload, and gradual changes can be applied to any amount of equipment. Assuming just the dumbbells listed above, you can do:
Day 1:
Goblet Squats (progress to single-leg if the weight gets too light)
Overhead Press
Romanian Deadlifts (progress to single-leg if the weight gets too light)
Day 2:
Goblet Squats
Floor press
Rows
Where progressing up in weight isn’t an option, progressing up in reps is.
I suggest looking into r/bodyweight. Bodyweight exercises, followed by same supplemented by a bookbag gradually more full of books, then gradually more full of bags of sand/gravel are not expensive and don’t require a gym.
Although I am likely biased by the location of the gym I go to, the real unpleasant experience for me was admitting that many of the “enemies” are in fact very reasonable and intelligent people.
I’ve had similar objections in the past. What helped me overcome that was to think about it like I was “going undercover” and “behind enemy lines” to steal their secrets and techniques to use against them. I was going to get strong, yes—but I was going to do awesome stuff with my strength, not lame stuff.
As Nornagest put, I totally had the geek mentality of “Physicality is for jocks/oppressors!!” Eventually I realized that they were winning on a lot of important levels, and I was avoiding successful methodologies because they were being used by The Enemy. This was needlessly sabotaging my own success.
Even now, the weight lifting communities tend to be extremely irrational, misogynistic, homophobic, and otherwise problematic, and for that reason I’m not totally OK with identifying as a weightlifter, since that’s how most people associate it. However, there are groups of non-problematic weightlifters, and I find that identifying with that crowd is pretty cool.
Recently put into words why I find weightlifting and similar so difficult to motivate myself into doing; despite the demonstrated benefits, it still feels like enemy attire, and every time I attempt it, this alief gets reinforced. I haven;t thought of any good ways to fight the gut reaction, but at least now I’m thinking about it.
Nicely put.
I used to wonder why other transhumanists seemed to neglect their bodies so much. All this talk about becoming perfect, immortal machines, yet aside from nootropics and the occasional trendy diet, hardly a one put any effort into optimizing what they had; even the really simple stuff, like maintaining decent hygiene and occasionally wearing things other than T-shirts with clever references on them, often fell by the wayside.
The answer, of course, was that the transhumanist identity for most of these people grew out of their geek identity, and that physical and social fitness were seen as threatening or at least alien for male, American geeks of that era: they coded as the domain of jocks or scenesters or boring preppies. I hadn’t fallen into the same trap because I’d been disillusioned with the culture for a while by then, but perhaps another solution would have been to change the precedence of those identities.
Alternately you could try looking into the Quantified Self scene; I expect that might make the instrumental nature of e.g. weightlifting more salient.
I know it would be beneficial, but weight rooms are populated by people I dislike interacting with and do not wish to be like so that just sticking around takes extra effort. And AFAIK none of the programs like starting strength are the kind of thing you can do in your apartment with minimal equipment (if there is one, I can probably manage that).
Why minimal equipment? Is there a problem with spending money on equipment? Your profile indacates that you are a programmer instead of a poor student.
I am only slightly removed from student, and not at all from poor. It turns out loans are expensive, and reassurances that family would be able to help assuage it were based on cached knowledge that was no longer correct.
But really, the proximate issue is space rather than money. I could probably buy and use these, but not this, regardles of whether I could afford it.
Well, do that.
ETA: I have similar space constraints, and because of that, indeed have several dumbbells and kettlebells but no weights bench. I also use a gym, because I have no problem going to a place to work out in which there are other people who are there to work out.
As far as I can tell, starting exercise programs (Starting Strength etc.) generally assume use of a gym. I’d work around that, but the parts where significant weight increases happen quickly would require several sets of weights in quick succession, and that cost is prohibitive.
Adjustable dumbbells are a possible solution. Especially plate loaded handles. I purchased this dumbbell set and expanded it with additional 1.25lb, 10lb, and 25lb plates. I can now load up to 125lbs on a dumbbell, with the limiting factor being the length of the handle. I’m looking to acquire some 20″ handles which should last me for years.
The popular novice programs have optimized the details for progress and effectiveness. The general principles of compound movements, consistency, progressive overload, and gradual changes can be applied to any amount of equipment. Assuming just the dumbbells listed above, you can do:
Day 1:
Goblet Squats (progress to single-leg if the weight gets too light)
Overhead Press
Romanian Deadlifts (progress to single-leg if the weight gets too light)
Day 2:
Goblet Squats
Floor press
Rows
Where progressing up in weight isn’t an option, progressing up in reps is.
I suggest looking into r/bodyweight. Bodyweight exercises, followed by same supplemented by a bookbag gradually more full of books, then gradually more full of bags of sand/gravel are not expensive and don’t require a gym.
Although I am likely biased by the location of the gym I go to, the real unpleasant experience for me was admitting that many of the “enemies” are in fact very reasonable and intelligent people.
Recently kettlebells become somewhat fashionable. AFAIK you can do kettlebell exercises in an apartment.
I’ve had similar objections in the past. What helped me overcome that was to think about it like I was “going undercover” and “behind enemy lines” to steal their secrets and techniques to use against them. I was going to get strong, yes—but I was going to do awesome stuff with my strength, not lame stuff.
As Nornagest put, I totally had the geek mentality of “Physicality is for jocks/oppressors!!” Eventually I realized that they were winning on a lot of important levels, and I was avoiding successful methodologies because they were being used by The Enemy. This was needlessly sabotaging my own success.
Even now, the weight lifting communities tend to be extremely irrational, misogynistic, homophobic, and otherwise problematic, and for that reason I’m not totally OK with identifying as a weightlifter, since that’s how most people associate it. However, there are groups of non-problematic weightlifters, and I find that identifying with that crowd is pretty cool.