I’m not gonna lie, I’m pretty crazily happy that a random quick take I wrote 10m on a Friday morning about how Daniel Kokotajlo should get social reward and get partial refunding sparked a discussion that seems to have caused positive effects wayyyy beyond expectations.
Quick takes is an awesome innovation, it allows to post even when one is still partially confused/uncertain about sthg. Given the confusing details of the situation in that case, this wd pbbly not have happened otherwise.
So first the 85% net worth thing went quite viral several times and made Daniel Kokotajlo a bit of a heroic figure on Twitter.
Then Kelsey Piper’s reporting pushed OpenAI to give back Daniel’s vested units. I think it’s likely that Kelsey used elements from this discussion as initial hints for her reporting and plausible that the discussion sparked her reporting, I’d love to have her confirmation or denial on that.
When I was first seeing this post it had 0 karma and −8 disagree votes. It’s unclear to me why. Kelsey Piper is a rationalist so it’s quite plausible that she did see the discussion and was partly motivated by it. Can anyone who disagrees with simeon’s comment argue their position?
(My track record of 0% accuracy on which messages will politically snowball is holding up very well. I’m glad that sometimes people like you say things the way you say them, rather than only people like me saying things how I say them.)
I was just thinking not 10 minutes ago about how that one LW user who casually brought up Daniel K’s equity (I didn’t remember your username) had a massive impact and I’m really grateful for them.
There’s a plausible chain of events where simeon_c brings up the equity > it comes to more people’s attention > OpenAI goes under scrutiny > OpenAI becomes more transparent > OpenAI can no longer maintain its de facto anti-safety policies > either OpenAI changes policy to become much more safety-conscious, or loses power relative to more safety-conscious companies > we don’t all die from OpenAI’s unsafe AI.
He openly stated that he had left OA because he lost confidence that they would manage singularity responsibly. Had he signed the NDA, he would be prohibited from saying that.
I’m not gonna lie, I’m pretty crazily happy that a random quick take I wrote 10m on a Friday morning about how Daniel Kokotajlo should get social reward and get partial refunding sparked a discussion that seems to have caused positive effects wayyyy beyond expectations.
Quick takes is an awesome innovation, it allows to post even when one is still partially confused/uncertain about sthg. Given the confusing details of the situation in that case, this wd pbbly not have happened otherwise.
Do you know if there have been any concrete implications (ie. someone giving Daniel a substantial amount of money) from the discussion?′
So first the 85% net worth thing went quite viral several times and made Daniel Kokotajlo a bit of a heroic figure on Twitter.
Then Kelsey Piper’s reporting pushed OpenAI to give back Daniel’s vested units. I think it’s likely that Kelsey used elements from this discussion as initial hints for her reporting and plausible that the discussion sparked her reporting, I’d love to have her confirmation or denial on that.
When I was first seeing this post it had 0 karma and −8 disagree votes. It’s unclear to me why. Kelsey Piper is a rationalist so it’s quite plausible that she did see the discussion and was partly motivated by it. Can anyone who disagrees with simeon’s comment argue their position?
(My track record of 0% accuracy on which messages will politically snowball is holding up very well. I’m glad that sometimes people like you say things the way you say them, rather than only people like me saying things how I say them.)
What kind of effects are you thinking about?
I was just thinking not 10 minutes ago about how that one LW user who casually brought up Daniel K’s equity (I didn’t remember your username) had a massive impact and I’m really grateful for them.
There’s a plausible chain of events where simeon_c brings up the equity > it comes to more people’s attention > OpenAI goes under scrutiny > OpenAI becomes more transparent > OpenAI can no longer maintain its de facto anti-safety policies > either OpenAI changes policy to become much more safety-conscious, or loses power relative to more safety-conscious companies > we don’t all die from OpenAI’s unsafe AI.
So you may have saved the world.
How did you know Daniel Kokotajlo didn’t sign the OpenAI NDA and probably lost money?
He openly stated that he had left OA because he lost confidence that they would manage singularity responsibly. Had he signed the NDA, he would be prohibited from saying that.
Isn’t that a non-disparagement clause, not a NDA?