IDK if helpful, but my comment on this post here is maybe related to fighting fire with fire (though Elizabeth might have been more thinking of strictly internal motions, or something else):
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kcoqwHscvQTx4xgwa/?commentId=bTe9HbdxNgph7pEL4#comments
And gjm’s comment on this post points at some of the relevant quotes:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kcoqwHscvQTx4xgwa/?commentId=NQdCG27BpLCTuKSZG
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IDK if helpful, but my comment on this post here is maybe related to fighting fire with fire (though Elizabeth might have been more thinking of strictly internal motions, or something else):
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kcoqwHscvQTx4xgwa/?commentId=bTe9HbdxNgph7pEL4#comments
And gjm’s comment on this post points at some of the relevant quotes:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kcoqwHscvQTx4xgwa/?commentId=NQdCG27BpLCTuKSZG