in that sense this kind of argument you have made is really besides the point
One interpretation of XFrequentist’s comment is simply pointing out that mukashi’s “doomerism has gained so much track” implies a wrong history. A corrected statement would be more like “doomerism hasn’t lost track”.
I don’t think this is a productive way to engage here.
A “way of engaging” shouldn’t go so far as to disincentivize factual correction.
Fair enough. I interpreted XFrequentist as presenting this argument as an argument that AI Doomerism is correct and/or that people skeptical of Doomerism shouldn’t post those skeptical views. But i see now how your interpretation is also plausible.
Indeed, as Vladmir gleaned, I just wanted to clarify that the historical roots of LW & AGI risk are deeper than might be immediately apparent, which could offer a better explanation for the prevalence of Doomerism than, like, EY enchanting us with his eyes or whatever.
One interpretation of XFrequentist’s comment is simply pointing out that mukashi’s “doomerism has gained so much track” implies a wrong history. A corrected statement would be more like “doomerism hasn’t lost track”.
A “way of engaging” shouldn’t go so far as to disincentivize factual correction.
Fair enough. I interpreted XFrequentist as presenting this argument as an argument that AI Doomerism is correct and/or that people skeptical of Doomerism shouldn’t post those skeptical views. But i see now how your interpretation is also plausible.
Indeed, as Vladmir gleaned, I just wanted to clarify that the historical roots of LW & AGI risk are deeper than might be immediately apparent, which could offer a better explanation for the prevalence of Doomerism than, like, EY enchanting us with his eyes or whatever.