Ah, I think we need a more detailed model of what it means to want something. What a person says they want, what they think they want, and what they actually want at any given moment may differ. As verbal manipulators, humans tend to focus on what is said, but it’s hard to see how that’s actually the correct one.
If a group decided that it wants X, and the individual member doesn’t want X enough to actually do it, the definition of “decided” seems to be in question. Maybe some members want X more than others.
(yes, I’m being a bit intentionally obtuse. I do want to be explicit when we’re talking about coercion of others in order to meet your goals, as opposed to examining our own goals and beliefs. )
Ah, I think we need a more detailed model of what it means to want something. What a person says they want, what they think they want, and what they actually want at any given moment may differ. As verbal manipulators, humans tend to focus on what is said, but it’s hard to see how that’s actually the correct one.
If a group decided that it wants X, and the individual member doesn’t want X enough to actually do it, the definition of “decided” seems to be in question. Maybe some members want X more than others.
(yes, I’m being a bit intentionally obtuse. I do want to be explicit when we’re talking about coercion of others in order to meet your goals, as opposed to examining our own goals and beliefs. )