If your goal is to win the argument, then you’re making the mistake of letting the other guys frame the discussion. What evidence do they have for any of this miracle stuff? People a long time ago came up with all sorts of unverifiable miracle claims. Hell, they still do. A lack of made-up miracle claims would be surprising. Why are you privileging this particular hokey miracle claim?
If your goal is to win the argument, then you’re making the mistake of letting the other guys frame the discussion. What evidence do they have for any of this miracle stuff?
I’m confused by your comment. The main remark Marius was making was that he found one skeptical claim (that which he attributes to “Reform Rabbis”) as not likely. I don’t see how that connects with your remark which seems to only make sense if Marius had been arguing with religious individuals who were using the claimed miracle of Chanukah as evidence for their religion.
If your goal is to win the argument, then you’re making the mistake of letting the other guys frame the discussion. What evidence do they have for any of this miracle stuff? People a long time ago came up with all sorts of unverifiable miracle claims. Hell, they still do. A lack of made-up miracle claims would be surprising. Why are you privileging this particular hokey miracle claim?
I’m confused by your comment. The main remark Marius was making was that he found one skeptical claim (that which he attributes to “Reform Rabbis”) as not likely. I don’t see how that connects with your remark which seems to only make sense if Marius had been arguing with religious individuals who were using the claimed miracle of Chanukah as evidence for their religion.
Looks like I misread the question. Thanks for the correction.