Look at Table 3, most people in the study received some kind of treatment, in particular 40% received oxygen. You can’t figure out the untreated fatality rate from this.
Interesting list of treatments. I’m a bit confused why a majority needed antibiotics, for example. I guess the virus opens the door for bacterial infections...?
I thought pneumonia was a condition / symptom / cluster of symptoms, not a disease. You can have pneumonia caused by COVID-19, or pneumonia caused by a bacterial infection, or pneumonia caused by some other viral infection, etc. It’s confusing because there’s a so-called “pneumonia vaccine”. It’s really a “vaccine against a particular bacterial infection that often causes pneumonia”. You can correct me if I’m wrong :)
Having a respiratory infection makes you much more vulnerable to bacterial pneumonia secondary infection which is what is being seen in a lot of the deadly cases.
This not-particularly-reliable source says “So far, there have been very few concurrent or subsequent bacterial infections, unlike Influenza where secondary bacterial infections are common and a large source of additional morbidity and mortality”. So … I guess the doctors were giving antibiotics as a preventive measure that turned out to be unnecessary? Maybe??
Look at Table 3, most people in the study received some kind of treatment, in particular 40% received oxygen. You can’t figure out the untreated fatality rate from this.
Missed that! Thanks! I agree. It’s a lower bound.
Interesting list of treatments. I’m a bit confused why a majority needed antibiotics, for example. I guess the virus opens the door for bacterial infections...?
pneumonia comorbid in a huge number of cases.
I thought pneumonia was a condition / symptom / cluster of symptoms, not a disease. You can have pneumonia caused by COVID-19, or pneumonia caused by a bacterial infection, or pneumonia caused by some other viral infection, etc. It’s confusing because there’s a so-called “pneumonia vaccine”. It’s really a “vaccine against a particular bacterial infection that often causes pneumonia”. You can correct me if I’m wrong :)
Having a respiratory infection makes you much more vulnerable to bacterial pneumonia secondary infection which is what is being seen in a lot of the deadly cases.
This not-particularly-reliable source says “So far, there have been very few concurrent or subsequent bacterial infections, unlike Influenza where secondary bacterial infections are common and a large source of additional morbidity and mortality”. So … I guess the doctors were giving antibiotics as a preventive measure that turned out to be unnecessary? Maybe??
Thanks for explaining!!
For cases receiving antibiotics I would want to distinguish between prophylactic and therapeutic prescribing.
Are they being given “just in case” or are they being used to treat a bacterial infection (confirmed by testing)?
The general health/disease history and current medications of the patients most affected should also be considered when looking at the stats.