He could be pressed into suicide by blackmail: if some credible says that he would kill him and his children (or whatever he cares), if he will not commit suicide.
Why not just say “I’ll harm {X} if you say anything to the police?” Why force the person to specfically commit suicide?
Most people say Epstein pretty much cared about no one else but himself. I don’t know how they would threaten him at this point. He was about to go to jail for maybe forty years after being one of the most privileged people on the planet, and had no kids.
How do you get this blackmail message into the prison? Seriously, this is an important consideration that people always forget.
To be dead is the best guarantee of not saying anything ever, even under torture or deal with police.
The real point of blackmail may be future torture somewhere in prison.
Te message could be delivered even before he went to jail, so it was some kind of agreement between the members of the band. It could be even “delivered” acausally as an reasonable expectation. There could be other ways like a secret message via a client’s attorney.
That makes a lot more sense, but I don’t think it would prevent him from testifying to get out of prison or to reduce his jailtime. The witness protection program in the United States also has a perfect record at protecting informants from threats of death, even high level cartel informants that aren’t able to destroy the organizations they testify against.
A caveat is that the perfect record doesn’t include people who voluntarily left or violated WITSEC rules and were kicked out of the program—some of those people did indeed end up getting murdered.
One thing a lot of people don’t know about WITSEC is that it also maintains its own set of prisons to keep informants from the general population—which would literally kill them within hours.
Jeffrey Epstein could ensure such rules were followed as a member of witness protection. The biggest reason people get kicked out is because they continue to commit serious crimes.
But do we know all the other reasons why people get kicked out? An inconvenient witness could get kicked out for a technical fault to make the numbers look better, etc. See moral mazes and so on.
He could be pressed into suicide by blackmail: if some credible says that he would kill him and his children (or whatever he cares), if he will not commit suicide.
In that case it is still a type of murder.
Why not just say “I’ll harm {X} if you say anything to the police?” Why force the person to specfically commit suicide?
Most people say Epstein pretty much cared about no one else but himself. I don’t know how they would threaten him at this point. He was about to go to jail for maybe forty years after being one of the most privileged people on the planet, and had no kids.
How do you get this blackmail message into the prison? Seriously, this is an important consideration that people always forget.
To be dead is the best guarantee of not saying anything ever, even under torture or deal with police.
The real point of blackmail may be future torture somewhere in prison.
Te message could be delivered even before he went to jail, so it was some kind of agreement between the members of the band. It could be even “delivered” acausally as an reasonable expectation. There could be other ways like a secret message via a client’s attorney.
That makes a lot more sense, but I don’t think it would prevent him from testifying to get out of prison or to reduce his jailtime. The witness protection program in the United States also has a perfect record at protecting informants from threats of death, even high level cartel informants that aren’t able to destroy the organizations they testify against.
Do you have a source for the perfect record of protection?
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A caveat is that the perfect record doesn’t include people who voluntarily left or violated WITSEC rules and were kicked out of the program—some of those people did indeed end up getting murdered.
One thing a lot of people don’t know about WITSEC is that it also maintains its own set of prisons to keep informants from the general population—which would literally kill them within hours.
If the 100% success rate excludes every witness unwilling to follow all the rules, then it seems like the real success rate is unknown?
Jeffrey Epstein could ensure such rules were followed as a member of witness protection. The biggest reason people get kicked out is because they continue to commit serious crimes.
But do we know all the other reasons why people get kicked out? An inconvenient witness could get kicked out for a technical fault to make the numbers look better, etc. See moral mazes and so on.
Well, apparently the organizational issues are small enough that criminals haven’t stopped testifying against one another, so.
Which suggests the success rate is somewhat less than 100% and somewhat greater than 0%.