I didn’t ask to become an expert in troll psychology, but I’ve been wasting my time on internet discussions of questionable quality for years, and this is what I have to show for it.
In the response he claims that his spelling and grammar errors were intentionally adopted as a trick, but then makes more in the response. Likewise with respect to crude and offensive language. The guy has been caught lying about numerous other things, and transparently lied in that response.
CitationNeeded, thanks for that link. I’m not sure how clear it is that these several commenters are the same person, but i can see why you’d be suspicious. Interesting that most of mormon2′s early comments were upvoted, until recently he adopts this hostile tone. And rereading the “question of rationality”, mormon2 remains belligerent in the response, so i’m inclined to agree with wedrifid’s “juvenile rationalization” conclusion.
So, i understand dismissing mormon2 specifically, even if i think that listening-to-arguments-from-possibly-unfriendly-commenters is generally worth thinking about. I’m thinking that i may have given him too much benefit of the doubt, but stopped clock, twice a day, i suppose.
The nearby deleted comment clearly speculated that i’m mormon2 as well. I’m not, though it feels a bit silly to have to say so.
It looks like i’ve accidentally derailed this thread. Sorry about that. Well, as CitationNeeded originally suggested, commence with the collectively asking Eliezer for clear straight answers of inadequately answered questions.
The nearby deleted comment clearly speculated that i’m mormon2 as well. I’m not, though it feels a bit silly to have to say so.
Now I got this silly mental picture of the legacy of mormon2: from here on, every new poster will be suspected of being mormon2 for a few weeks before proving themselves. (Until it’s finally revealed that mormon2 was Eliezer in disguise, testing how the community would react to such behavior.)
Hi RNO, welcome to lesswrong. Congratulations on, well, not being mormon2 and please pardon me for affirming the suggestion.
Well, as CitationNeeded originally suggested, commence with the collectively asking Eliezer for clear straight answers of inadequately answered questions.
To the extent that people are interested in how Eliezer believes his rationality work relates to his ‘save the world’ gig, the perfect place to ask questions is the ask Eliezer questions page. Naturally, the ‘Eliezer has not been subpoenaed’ caveat still applies.
Indecently, any word on when Eliezer is likely to make that presentation?
Quite the reverse. The initial post has a point but the response is a juvenile rationalisation.
… and quite obviously to me.
I didn’t ask to become an expert in troll psychology, but I’ve been wasting my time on internet discussions of questionable quality for years, and this is what I have to show for it.
In the response he claims that his spelling and grammar errors were intentionally adopted as a trick, but then makes more in the response. Likewise with respect to crude and offensive language. The guy has been caught lying about numerous other things, and transparently lied in that response.
CitationNeeded, thanks for that link. I’m not sure how clear it is that these several commenters are the same person, but i can see why you’d be suspicious. Interesting that most of mormon2′s early comments were upvoted, until recently he adopts this hostile tone. And rereading the “question of rationality”, mormon2 remains belligerent in the response, so i’m inclined to agree with wedrifid’s “juvenile rationalization” conclusion.
So, i understand dismissing mormon2 specifically, even if i think that listening-to-arguments-from-possibly-unfriendly-commenters is generally worth thinking about. I’m thinking that i may have given him too much benefit of the doubt, but stopped clock, twice a day, i suppose.
The nearby deleted comment clearly speculated that i’m mormon2 as well. I’m not, though it feels a bit silly to have to say so.
It looks like i’ve accidentally derailed this thread. Sorry about that. Well, as CitationNeeded originally suggested, commence with the collectively asking Eliezer for clear straight answers of inadequately answered questions.
Now I got this silly mental picture of the legacy of mormon2: from here on, every new poster will be suspected of being mormon2 for a few weeks before proving themselves. (Until it’s finally revealed that mormon2 was Eliezer in disguise, testing how the community would react to such behavior.)
Hi RNO, welcome to lesswrong. Congratulations on, well, not being mormon2 and please pardon me for affirming the suggestion.
To the extent that people are interested in how Eliezer believes his rationality work relates to his ‘save the world’ gig, the perfect place to ask questions is the ask Eliezer questions page. Naturally, the ‘Eliezer has not been subpoenaed’ caveat still applies.
Indecently, any word on when Eliezer is likely to make that presentation?