That doesn’t seem to be about generating new advice. Basically he proposes to take someone else’s hard-won research, throw away the parts you don’t like (with no way of knowing if these parts were important to the function), and repackage it as your own. I’m not sure you can get a superior product that way.
Nothing says that PUA people HAVEN’T generated perfectly good advice. The point is not to independently generate advice that works, or to claim credit for advice someone else came up with. The point is to try to filter that advice into something we can point shy guys to and say “this will help you, without being unethical.”
You’re also missing that men can be feminists. Producing a quality system of PUA that is ethical and effective will require the efforts of both men and women.
You’re also missing that men can be feminists. Producing a quality system of PUA that
is ethical and effective will require the efforts of both men and women.
Yes, yes, this is it. Some of us are looking for advice without the sleeze factor.
PUAs have drawing selectively from pickup knowledge for years: using what they like, and throwing away what they don’t. I see no reason why non-PUAs shouldn’t do the same. Of course, they shouldn’t just plagiarize pickup without citing their sources.
PUAs have drawing selectively from pickup knowledge for years: using what they like, and throwing away what they don’t. I see no reason why non-PUAs shouldn’t do the same.
Well, I see a reason. After you modify someone else’s advice, you ought to test it to see if it still works. If you didn’t test your modified version, you shouldn’t publish it. What would you think about advice for entrepreneurs that was tweaked and republished by a salaried programmer?
Clarisse has been consulting with me and other people with pickup background. I don’t completely agree with all her conclusions, but she isn’t just cherry-picking pickup knowledge to keep and throw away completely haphazardly.
That doesn’t seem to be about generating new advice. Basically he proposes to take someone else’s hard-won research, throw away the parts you don’t like (with no way of knowing if these parts were important to the function), and repackage it as your own. I’m not sure you can get a superior product that way.
Nothing says that PUA people HAVEN’T generated perfectly good advice. The point is not to independently generate advice that works, or to claim credit for advice someone else came up with. The point is to try to filter that advice into something we can point shy guys to and say “this will help you, without being unethical.”
You’re also missing that men can be feminists. Producing a quality system of PUA that is ethical and effective will require the efforts of both men and women.
Yes, yes, this is it. Some of us are looking for advice without the sleeze factor.
PUAs have drawing selectively from pickup knowledge for years: using what they like, and throwing away what they don’t. I see no reason why non-PUAs shouldn’t do the same. Of course, they shouldn’t just plagiarize pickup without citing their sources.
Well, I see a reason. After you modify someone else’s advice, you ought to test it to see if it still works. If you didn’t test your modified version, you shouldn’t publish it. What would you think about advice for entrepreneurs that was tweaked and republished by a salaried programmer?
Clarisse has been consulting with me and other people with pickup background. I don’t completely agree with all her conclusions, but she isn’t just cherry-picking pickup knowledge to keep and throw away completely haphazardly.
Haha. That’s some vote of confidence there.
Believe it or not, it was ;)