From reading things like Reddit, I’ve learned that karma is useful however casual or whatever your conversation is. I don’t care if you want to have an off-topic casual conversation section, but being against karma is dumb
Some people have reached the exact opposite conclusion from the same evidence; spending time on Reddit. Intelligent people, AFAIK. So not only does your last, categorically-stated statement seem counter-factual, it’s also remarkably rude.
The fact that someone uses a calibration system different than yours does not make theirs “poorer” than yours. Otherwise, what’s to stop me from saying that “if you think it isn’t rude then you’re the one who’s poorly calibrated”?
The fact that someone uses a calibration system different than yours does not make theirs “poorer” than yours.
It does, in a certain useful sense. The truth of how well a belief works is not directly accessible, so all you have is an estimate. If, after taking into account the fact that another person’s belief is different, your beliefs remain different, you should expect their belief to be worse than yours (otherwise, you should just accept their belief). They should sometimes estimate that their belief is better than yours as well, at the same time. In this situation, one of you is wrong about the estimate of whose belief is more accurate, but this is similar to how one of you has a more accurate belief than the other, that is one of you is more wrong about the fact in question that the belief estimates.
Otherwise, what’s to stop me from saying that “if you think it isn’t rude then you’re the one who’s poorly calibrated”?
Suppose nothing does; even in that case it is not a relevant consideration. (In practice, it is the fact that it’s already known at this point in the conversation that the argument won’t be accepted by the interlocutor without additional justification.)
Well said. Then I suppose, if we want Aumanic about it, that I should ask “define your criteria for evaluating poor-ness of a calibration of rudeness” and “define what you mean by poor in the first place”. Then I suppose we could dissolve the question.
That doesn’t make what you said any less liable to be remarked upon. That your first impulse was to be ruder speaks poorly about your impulses, and highly about your ability to control them, but “it could have been worse” doesn’t make what it ended up being any less bad; thinking it does is evidence of a poor calibration method.
From reading things like Reddit, I’ve learned that karma is useful however casual or whatever your conversation is. I don’t care if you want to have an off-topic casual conversation section, but being against karma is dumb
I’m not against karma, but it’s the reason why the largest subreddits have turned into trash.
Some people have reached the exact opposite conclusion from the same evidence; spending time on Reddit. Intelligent people, AFAIK. So not only does your last, categorically-stated statement seem counter-factual, it’s also remarkably rude.
If you think that’s remarkably rude you’re pretty poorly calibrated.
The fact that someone uses a calibration system different than yours does not make theirs “poorer” than yours. Otherwise, what’s to stop me from saying that “if you think it isn’t rude then you’re the one who’s poorly calibrated”?
It does, in a certain useful sense. The truth of how well a belief works is not directly accessible, so all you have is an estimate. If, after taking into account the fact that another person’s belief is different, your beliefs remain different, you should expect their belief to be worse than yours (otherwise, you should just accept their belief). They should sometimes estimate that their belief is better than yours as well, at the same time. In this situation, one of you is wrong about the estimate of whose belief is more accurate, but this is similar to how one of you has a more accurate belief than the other, that is one of you is more wrong about the fact in question that the belief estimates.
Suppose nothing does; even in that case it is not a relevant consideration. (In practice, it is the fact that it’s already known at this point in the conversation that the argument won’t be accepted by the interlocutor without additional justification.)
Well said. Then I suppose, if we want Aumanic about it, that I should ask “define your criteria for evaluating poor-ness of a calibration of rudeness” and “define what you mean by poor in the first place”. Then I suppose we could dissolve the question.
Oh it was definitely rude. I object to the remarkably. Especially considering I removed several far ruder things from that comment before posting it.
That doesn’t make what you said any less liable to be remarked upon. That your first impulse was to be ruder speaks poorly about your impulses, and highly about your ability to control them, but “it could have been worse” doesn’t make what it ended up being any less bad; thinking it does is evidence of a poor calibration method.
By your own standards, you mean?
I think I phrased it in a way that would work by any standards.… Er, haven’t I?